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ofcourse I am saying that. majority of Indians does not support the war on Iraq.
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*Okay my Hindu brothers, lets see this issue from another aspect. *
Do you guys know Bishambhar Nath Pande born on 23 December 1906 in the Madhya Pradesh of Umreth; died in New Delhi, 1 June 1998.
member UP Legislative Assembly (1952-53)
member UP Legislative Council (1972-74)
twice member of the upper house, Rajya Sabha (1976 and 1982)
Governor of Orissa state (1983-88)
recipient of the highest national award Padma Shri (1976)
author of several books, including The Spirit of India and The Concise History of Congress
Re: Why do Pakistanis consider Mahmud Ghazni, Mohammad Ghauri & Aurangzeb Great Muslims?
And what do you say about this
"Every civil building connected with Mahommedan tradition should be levelled to the ground without regard to antiquarian veneration or artistic predilection."
British Prime Minister Palmerston's Letter No. 9 dated 9 October 1857, to Lord Canning, Viceroy of India, Canning Papers.
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one's hero is others villain.i dont know if they were good aur bad coz i didnt lived in their period.moreover dont believe in histories they r just stories.History can never be 100% right and the histories r always partial to the the person who rules the roost at that particular time.
PPl here say that muslims came and ruled us for 1000 years.they civilized us we(hindu) were the sub human before muslim came.but excuse me sir india was always attacked by external powers right from aryan times(if aryan invasion theory is correct but now a days ppl r contesting that theory also).Aryans when they attacked they labled dravidians as uncivilised sub humans.PPl claimed aryans r the super humans and they ve the right to civilze these ppl.For all posters here aryans were just like any other nomadic ppl.they came to india coz of its natural and physical wealth. then came huns..etc..etc...then muslims...and every one came for indian wealth coz india was the land of opportuinity at that time likewas america is today.they came they ruled they flourished and they contributed to indian civilization.so after muslims came british and other european powers for them also india was full of wealth and indians both hindu,muslim sikh etc were the sub humans and its was their duty to civilze this crowd.and meanwhile they also contributed to the indian civilization withe advance science and democracy concepts.indian civilization has thrived from the first human set foot on this land.as far as i know dravidians. different races of ppl came and settled over here who benifited from india and india benifited from them.its like give and take.for those who contributed to it r heroes like buddha,jain,ashok,akbar,the cholas and shakyas of south etc.
Now if pakistani believes in aryan theory and thinks that they r much civilized than us the indians then its good for them.coz same was the thinking of europeans in the early 18th and 19th century.its like saying might is right.
Let me tell u ppl india is not about religion (hindu muslim sikh jain buddist etc) its about the thinking .its about its dwellers.its about its civilization(however uncivilised our paki friends thinks we r,,,,,but we r still the same human creat3d by the term called god)and how can he differentiate in his creation.
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Everyone tried to civilize people of this land some became civilized some did not and are adamant about it.
Dear, India was not the land of oppurtunity like US. If you really want to give U.S. example then the correct example would be anglo-saxons coming to north America and makig it civilized land and now a land of great oppurtunity.!
Before these anglo-saxons, red indians were just like the Indians who were civilized by others including muslims.
Please stop falsifying history based on your liking.
Did you get the real picture?
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"Every civil building connected with Mahommedan tradition should be levelled to the ground without regard to antiquarian veneration or artistic predilection."
British Prime Minister Palmerston's Letter No. 9 dated 9 October 1857, to Lord Canning, Viceroy of India, Canning Papers.
How about India gives Taj Mahal and other similar buildings control to Pakistani consulate based on this hateful stand by this man considerd 'good' by indians?:)
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Well, MG and Ghouri will remain undisputed heroes for they brought so much greatness to Indian sub-continent including justice, education and overall wealth to this land and its citizens.
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Now if pakistani believes in aryan theory and thinks that they r much civilized than us the indians then its good for them.coz same was the thinking of europeans in the early 18th and 19th century.its like saying might is right.
Let me tell u ppl india is not about religion (hindu muslim sikh jain buddist etc) its about the thinking .its about its dwellers.its about its civilization(however uncivilised our paki friends thinks we r,,,,,but we r still the same human creat3d by the term called god)and how can he differentiate in his creation.
Your above ideas was a pleasant surprise for me. I had exactly similar ideas in my mind but never expressed it. While reading above lines, I thought I had written the whole thing. How come we both have exactly similar thinking on this subject?
Anyway the only difference between us is that you seem to be Hindu while I happen to be a Muslim. And the only error I would like to correct is the statement "India was always attacked by external powers". This statement was true until 1971. Everybody in India believes that India was invaded by Pakistan in 1971 thanks to our biased media. But the whole international community and the eminent Indian journalists know the fact that it was India which attacked Pakistan in 1971 to take advantage of civil war situation in East Pakistan and eventually divided it. I am sorry to admit here as an Indian how our biased media and politicians brainwash us that we never invaded any country. Indira Gandhi showed her extremely opportunistic idea of taking advantage of other's misery and she displayed similar ethics while dealing with her domestic political opponents too. Once she orchestrated the whole ruling non-congress party in Haryana to become the whole congress rule thanks to her dirty DAL BADAL politics and thus brought more and more immoral and corrupt people in Indian politics. It's her legacy of taking opportunity of other people's misery which has distroyed our beautiful democracy of Nehru and Shastri era.
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Okay, you are the kind of Indians I respect. But unfortunately, these are very few. It takes guts to accept things in such a way.
Finally, I am able to say there is someone from the Indian side I regard. :) If thats how you approach things, in a fair manner, I have no fight with you.
Wasalaam
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Re: Why do Pakistanis consider Mahmud Ghazni, Mohammad Ghauri & Aurangzeb Great Musli
British Prime Minister Palmerston's Letter No. 9 dated 9 October 1857, to Lord Canning, Viceroy of India, Canning Papers.
y shud the whole hindu community be appolegetic to the words of an individual same in the sense y should the whole muslim community be appolegtic to the doings of certain terrorists
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Dear, India was not the land of oppurtunity like US. If you really want to give U.S. example then the correct example would be anglo-saxons coming to north America and makig it civilized land and now a land of great oppurtunity.! Before these anglo-saxons, red indians were just like the Indians who were civilized by others including muslims.
Please stop falsifying history based on your liking.
Did you get the real picture?
then y the ppl came to india if the land has nothing to offer them.just to civilize us.and then running away from the same land.:D
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its not a question of being hindu or a muslim its a question of being the ppl of the land.thats y i said powerful rights history of the time.even today gandhi family rules the roost at delhi.so until ppl throw out these leaders this land will remain the same as for matter of fact any land.
PS:whenever the land is ruled from dilli it developed a lot:snooty:
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may be coz there r only 150 million muslims in india:snooty:.just a joke dont take it otherwise:D
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^ Are you indian or paki? 
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Anyway the only difference between us is that you seem to be Hindu while I happen to be a Muslim. And the only error I would like to correct is the statement "India was always attacked by external powers". This statement was true until 1971. Everybody in India believes that India was invaded by Pakistan in 1971 thanks to our biased media. But the whole international community and the eminent Indian journalists know the fact that it was India which attacked Pakistan in 1971 to take advantage of civil war situation in East Pakistan and eventually divided it. I am sorry to admit here as an Indian how our biased media and politicians brainwash us that we never invaded any country. Indira Gandhi showed her extremely opportunistic idea of taking advantage of other's misery and she displayed similar ethics while dealing with her domestic political opponents too. Once she orchestrated the whole ruling non-congress party in Haryana to become the whole congress rule thanks to her dirty DAL BADAL politics and thus brought more and more immoral and corrupt people in Indian politics. It's her legacy of taking opportunity of other people's misery which has distroyed our beautiful democracy of Nehru and Shastri era.
Sal, I would appreciate if u provide some evidence to ur lecture. India invaded east pakistan not west. West front was opened by the pakistani itself, attacking kashmir. Ask a pakistani and they would also have no problem in accepting it.:)
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u keep guessing:D
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I first learnt about it when I read an article in "Times Of India" written by the most eminent economist of India Mr. Swaminathan, couple of years back, when he mentioned about the Indian invasion of Pakistan in 1971. I never miss his articles on economics and he is one of the most eminent personality I admire. I have great regards for him. He writes a column in Times Of India carrying the name SWAMINOMICS. If I go back to his issues then I can show you what I told above.
Whenever Indian budget appears, most of the T.V. channels seek and broadcast his opinion.
I also had a live discussion on this topic with few of my colleagues and one of my Bengali Brahmin colleague who had a complete knowledge of the whole sequence of 1971 war, explained how India took advantage of trouble in East Pakistan and how our media spread the false propoganda.
Today, you make a random survey of 100 Indians and I am pretty sure everybody would tell that Pakistan invaded India. This is the result of false and biased propoganda by a biased media.
If you think that we are right then why we are not allowing international media to cover events in Kashmir. Iraq and Palestinian events are covered by international media and so they figure prominently in every international news. But international media is not allowed either in India or in Pakistan to cover Kashmir events and so we get biased news from both sides.
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Can’t you guess bud !!!
She is a Hindu 
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bhai saheb unka doubt tha ki main pakistani hoon ya hindostaani naki hindu ya muslim.