to phir sab ko bulanay say pehlay sochna tha ...** already girls are being accused of being opportunistic** .... and if girls abroad dont like guys abroad anyways ... then yeah! what can you do except for holding a danda :ASA: and beating the guys up till they are perfect for them ...
I do agree with you though, Pakistani girls from back home are not the ones to blame
So what? half of the family is suppose to be left behind for networking for future girls? really, are you serious? many people throughout this thread (and forum to be exact) stereotype and generalize a whole lot, there are girls out in abroad who are perfectly fine with the guys out there as well
and are you really serious that whole families moving abroad is a great thing? and agr kar gayi hain, to phir jo loh peechay reh gaye hain, unko kyun responsible thehraein bahir banni communities ki problems k liye?
sab ko apnay apnay maslay hain ... aur sab laggay hain aik doosray ko bura bhala kehnay .. taalian ... what great people we are and what a great nation we form!
edit: thank you with agreeing
PCG, I love all your posts on this thread! you really kick ass girl!
Wait a minute, you just told us that most men who come to pakistan for rishtaa are the bad ones who are STD infested. So why do you care that they do? STD infested men are off your list anyway, right. Good riddance then. Stop being so freakin two faced.
Oh but he has a GREEN CARD. You can become a citizen! Your kids can become citizens! That's what you girls care about in Pakistan, right?
I mean you folks yourselves say - "Who would say no to a US CITIZEN?"
Ok, fine, he's a green card holder, but he's a stone's throw away from citizenship. :)
That’s the thinking capacity these girls have and that’s what families of Pakistani men are running after.
Lovely isn’t it?
Meanwhile, agar inhe mauka mile, they will come to the States and line up every distant relative of theirs for a Green Card. 
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I feel so sad reading this thead. so much finger pointing, gross generaliztions and bitterness...where is it all coming from? can we honestly and in all fairness, put the entire blame of our misery on others? are girls sharing these feelings with their parents/families? From what I read here, it seems they are feeling very isolated in voicing these concerns and thus feel the need to vent here.
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uh YEAH. Cuz you know what? No one out there gives a crap. All these families - we sit there in front of them like with a kashkol, and they are only interested in getting someone
Pretty much anyone with any advanced education doesn't qualify.
And the guys who avoid girls with points 1-5 (6 everyone wants), are all off marrying gorian. Just found out about a great family today, in fact, whose son is a pilot and who married a gori, and surprise surprise, their overqualified daughter is well older than me and still single.
This is not just me. A lot of girls are suffering through this BS.
If I eventually marry a white guy, I'm going to have to hear it from the entire family and the entire social circle here. Lose-lose no matter which way you go.
The only thing I came CLOSE to marrying was a lazy arse who had no sense of patriotism about this country whatsoever, refused to work, and spends all day looking for a wife on the internet or giving azaans in some small little apartment they've turned into a masjid. In that deal, I was gonna be the one to earn and feed the family.
Is that fair?
NO.
and are you really serious that whole families moving abroad is a great thing? and agr kar gayi hain, to phir jo loh peechay reh gaye hain, unko kyun responsible thehraein bahir banni communities ki problems k liye? sab ko apnay apnay maslay hain ... aur sab laggay hain aik doosray ko bura bhala kehnay .. taalian ... what great people we are and what a great nation we form!
edit: thank you with agreeing
i'm sorry but i wasn't of age to tell my parents "please don't call your whole family here" and also i don't think that inviting only certain relatives to come abroad is a good idea either ...but that is off topic
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PCG: as a mother of 2 little girls and bringing them up here in the US, I am honestly finding this very disturbing :(
what about your parents input? have they a big enough network to socialise? not just talking about 5 -10 local desi families who u seen on occassion but a broader network. becuase if you want to marry within the desi set-up, your family, not YOU, needs to be out there. that is true for here as well as back in Pakistan. i think that is one of the main reasons why families here find it easier to find rishtas back home, becuase of the vast social framework, its much easier to pinpoint like-minded families. its all about connections in the end, reputation within the communtiy, it all counts, can't blame it on just one factor.
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We know lots of families. They are not interested. They all have sons who eventually get married - and some have married goris, some have married retarded dimwitted Pakistani girls with no education. No one interested in the combination "Brown + Intelligent"
Except uneducated FOBS who come here looking for a free ride and a green card. Lots of those around ready for romance. They're a turn-off because they can't string a sentence together and then if you discuss issues of Islam with them, they're messed up in the head.
O my wife she must bootiful aur she has money?
And I'll tell you - I think I'm a fairly good catch. I ain't ugly, and I am fairly accomplished and can run a household pretty well. But do men care about that? No. That's not what they look for in a woman. Just ask any guy whose mom is hunting for him - what are you interested in - you get a retarded brainless generic response "must be a nice fair girl"
WTF
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aww pcg don’t be so mean to the girls back home, i don’t think they are to be held responsible here for this situation 
i am thinking of conducting a survey in my community regarding this mysterious phenomenon 
because i have yet to hear of it where i live.
you guys are hilarious 
uh YEAH. Cuz you know what? No one out there gives a crap. All these families - we sit there in front of them like with a kashkol, and they are only interested in getting someone
And you want to marry a stupid guy who prefers all this instead of someone as "intelligent" as you?
Let him happily marry a "retarded" Pakistani girl (since you KEEp mentioning how dumb they are.
WHy do you care that they are going after those girls
YOU are the one who suggested that these guys who find rishtas in pakistan are STD infested.
Seems to be you are the one looking for an STD infested dude all for yourself.
And I'll tell you - I think I'm a fairly good catch. I ain't ugly, and I am fairly accomplished and can run a household pretty well. But do men care about that? No. That's not what they look for in a woman. Just ask any guy whose mom is hunting for him - what are you interested in - you get a retarded brainless generic response "must be a nice fair girl"
WTF
So you're quite modest too..
We know lots of families. They are not interested. They all have sons who eventually get married - and some have married goris, some have married retarded dimwitted Pakistani girls with no education. No one interested in the combination "Brown + Intelligent"
Again you are calling pakistani girls "retarded dimwitts". WTF is wrong with you?
What exactly makes you so superior to all of us?
Just because you can post a million BS posts doesn't prove your intelligence at all! And this generalization cleary shows how biased you are.
AND wtf is wrong in marrying goris or non desi origin girls?
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How about you marry a gora, and recommend the same to your desi girlfriends?
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^I can't now, im already engaged.
but you should consider marrying a gora because pakistani men are usually "dimwitted retards" who don't go for "intelligent" girls like you. Im surprised why you are looking for pakistani men when you complain about them all the time.
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how does this explain girls in Pakistan who are single?
if guys abroad are getting girls in Pakistan, then there should be a shortage of girls and we would not see girls not getting rishtas, but we see that. no shortage of pakistani men in Pakistan.
But I am afraid the same issues which create issues for girls and guys in US are what create issues there. These include the families not being very social and connected and thus have a hard time finding matches and have to rely on matchmakers and what nots. Both sides look at who brings what to the table, and weakness in one area can be 'made up' by strength in another, a physically unattractive guy can be considered a catch if he is rolling in the dineros, a not too smart girl can land some great guy because she is from a connected family etc. The issue is when either a weakness is not made up by a strength, or the strength is not valued in the social group. e.g. a below avg looking girl who has done an msc in some subject which does not bring in much, or some avg looking guy who is not rich or not from a connected family.
I hate to put this out here like it is but that is really how it is.
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i have a cousin in pak. early 20s. never leaves her home unless its with her family, doesnt desier to come to US, wears abaya, very religious and traditional.
and she cant get a rishta.
its all about kismet and that's it.
Hi
I understand how frustrated PCG or other girls in her shoes are facing. But the actual picture might not be that simple.
She claiming that all even good, educated US born and brought up guys could be forced by parents to give up someone they love, to marry a stranger from back home.
I am sorry we are talking about US educated, born and brought up they are more independent and financially secured, I doubt that they would allow parent to dictate on this if they really love someone.
Although our (back home in Pakistan) is are still submissive to most extent, but for boys even parents in Pakistan losing their control on this.
I think the problem not only with aunties/ or uncle. They might need to look at themselves as well. They are not living in the jungle, i am sure they have raised and grown up, and knows lot of other Pakistani boys.
Forget about parents, if you both parties found the love of their life among themselves, would they allow the parents to interfere?
It is so easy to blame 'girls from back home or the guy looking at Pakistan" when they themselves failed to build right relationship with them. In this case it if very unfair to blame girls these guys marring.
I am sure PCG is person of high intellect, and off course she is looking for guy who matches her intellect, might be have broad acceptance of her views (on life, family, and religion). I am sure there are not many guys would be fit the bill.
Those meet that requirement would never allow parents to deiced for them, in this case why blame parents?