Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
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What surprises me the most about foreign born girl, why the hell they would hurt some one they claim to love???
First you put a fairy from heaven show.
Then he finds out. And then girls share stories NO man one this planet can stand.
Its more like marrying a witch dressed as an angle.
To me NO WAY IN THEN HELL I will let some one kiss my kids with same mouth she has amused half of her high school.
LOL heres my man!!
SO true, Only problem is that chick having no supervision from their mom over pre-mar. relation can learn some freaky stuff.
My dude had surprise of his life when her hijabi mankoha, penetrated him, while being down town.
Many girls ive met in college/uni/work who have/had have serious/just fun relationships with boys say they'll lie to their future husbands about ever having boyfriends i.e. when they get rishtas
i don't get it why?
....& i dont get why boys (or husbands) r so curious to know about a girl's past, knowing every one has his/her past.
a mature person is one (either a girl or a boy) who leaves the past behind, & look forward to the future.. no matter if its his own past, or his life partner's.
concentrate on your present & live a happy life... cos the girl never knew tht who will be his boy, if she knew, m sure, she would never choose the wrong one & you would be her past as well...hope you get it now.
LOL heres my man!!
SO true, Only problem is that chick having no supervision from their mom over pre-mar. relation can learn some freaky stuff.
My dude had surprise of his life when her hijabi mankoha, penetrated him, while being down town.
^ If the man is one that has a long list of girlfriends, of course I dont consider him for shaadi!
That is your opinion, and I think everyone should respect that, because it is a big decision to make. However, it would only be prudent to admit that men who do the same, i.e. not desire a wife with a long list of boyfriends are also entitled to their opinion. Making sweeping generalizations like 'there are no clean men left', or men are 'unforgiving creatures' or' blaming them for women having prior relationships' is a tad too much.
Trust me, I am not one of those guys who'd come out here and defend the oppression of women and always support their right to marry whoever they like, but lately I've seen a very negative and unappealing vibe about men on this forum by the majority of the female posters here.
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And Spock, didnt you notice the title of the thread? Why do GIRLS lie about having had boyfriends?
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I didn't even talk about the topic of the thread. I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I value honesty more than chastity. If sleeping around is immoral and forbidden (for the religious lot), then so is lying. Past relationships are a thing of the past, and everyone makes mistakes in life and we should be more humane and understanding about it. Lying on the other hand is no different from repeating the same mistakes again.
Hence, it shouldnt matter. One's relationship or marriage based on lies might work, but deep down in his/her mind, he/she will have to live with a big lie. Their consciousness will continue to haunt them, especially if they have a very nice and understanding partner.
Hence, it shouldnt matter. One's relationship or marriage based on lies might work, but deep down in his/her mind, he/she will have to live with a big lie. Their consciousness will continue to haunt them, especially if they have a very nice and understanding partner.
I agree with this statement.
I think people lie because they can. Not saying its right or worng, but it happens.
As for this whole lying to rishtay business, I wouldnt think anybody would be discussing personal relationships at the tea trolly meeting! You would have to be really serious about someone with regards to marriage to even begin discussing such issues. Until then, selective information should suffice. That doesnt mean deny any relationships when asked, it means use common sense. Starting any relationship based on a lie never works out.
Re: Why do girls lie about having had boyfriends ?
Generalizations like **'there are no clean men left' **are as biased and senseless as any generalization against the dignity of all the women.
Those who give such generalized statements regarding any particular gender should be ready to be grabbed by their neck on the day of judgment by those people who exist in this world but are not included in such categories. People at times forget that they also include their siblings and future husbands in such categories when they speak without thinking.
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PSquared - I feel you. There are no "clean" men out there anymore - it breaks my heart! It's not fair to all the strong women who've set good standards for themselves in life
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There are honey, dont worry. Just be patient and dont settle for less. Inshallah you will find the one for you
A girl who was in a relationship with a guy before marriage -then recognized that as a Muslim this is wrong, felt bad for it, stopped doing it, sincerely repented and changed her life for the better. She made a mistake yes, but she acknowledged it in front of Allah and asked for forgiveness. If Allah forgives her for her mistake, then whose business is it now to judge her and hold her accountable for her past. Im not saying she needs to go about lying and proclaiming she is a virgin, but I dont necessarily think she needs to disclose her past to anyone either
A girl who was in a relationship with a guy before marriage -just wanted to fool around and have fun. And then act all innocent when its time to get married and intentionally try to fool her husband
(in both cases, same goes for a guy in the situation)
That being said, I think the reason girls lie also has to do with the fact that in Pakistani culture, a girl's virginity is seen as the family's honour, and a guy's lack of virginity is seen as his manhood. Enough already with these double standards, whats wrong for one is wrong for both
Its not always about the girl being "loose" or "sleeping around." If this was the case, then women who are divorced or widowed wouldnt have such a hard time remarrying. These women were not "loose" or "sleeping around", they were married and either they got divorced (which happens sometimes in life!) or their husband died (which also happens sometimes in life!). Yet they are still seen as "used goods" or "impure", even though the relationship they were in was not the least bit immoral or wrong, but was part of something sacred (marriage)
PSquared - I feel you. There are no "clean" men out there anymore - it breaks my heart! It's not fair to all the strong women who've set good standards for themselves in life. :(.
I know how you feel.:(
We men believe that there are clean girls left.
And when a filthy girl comes pretending to be a clean girls , that is real heart break.
But when a lying B make some one miserable then guys do share it with friends. To ease the pain. If you allow me I would share some stories, where not having hymen was least of the problems. And YET girl still kept faking it like they were in enormous pain
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Ok no thanks, I dont think anyone needs to hear such stories.
Maybe someone should tell them that what happens in the bedroom stays in the bedrooms. Unless he has a medical reason to discuss the details of his intimate life, he shouldnt be sharing this information with his friends. And no, his wife not being a virgin doesnt count as a medical reason. Yes Im sure he is upset, especially is his wife is lying to him and mocking him, but still, he shouldnt be sharing stories like this with others
Ok no thanks, I dont think anyone needs to hear such stories.
Maybe someone should tell them that what happens in the bedroom stays in the bedrooms. Unless he has a medical reason to discuss the details of his intimate life, he shouldnt be sharing this information with his friends. And no, his wife not being a virgin doesnt count as a medical reason. Yes Im sure he is upset, especially is his wife is lying to him and mocking him, but still, he shouldnt be sharing stories like this with others
Stop supporting sisterhood here.
I clearly told you under what circumstances that happens.
One of my friend was able to sleep with out intoxication him self for a long time.
Other on long distance used to cery over the phone.
Both *****es wanted to walk out of marriage be cause the started sleeping with other boys during marriage BEFORE divorce.
ARE THEY EVEN QUALIFIED TO CALLED WIVES???????
But HELL yes they acted like angles when TRAPPING my friends.
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What surprises me the most about foreign born girl, why the hell they would hurt some one they claim to love???
First you put a fairy from heaven show.
Then he finds out. And then girls share stories NO man one this planet can stand.
Its more like marrying a witch dressed as an angle.
To me NO WAY IN THEN HELL I will let some one kiss my kids with same mouth she has amused half of her high school.
First of all, this is NOT a debate about FOREIGN BORN GIRLS vs PAKISTAN BORN GIRLS. Dont play that card because its just as common there as it is here nowadays...especially among the men.
Second, you sound like you've heard maybe one or two stories and now have formed your opinion about women in general. You seem to think all women are sluts now. I cant debate with someone who has tunnel vision.
Third, if you want to talk to people here please refrain from being graphic. Its disrespectful, limits discussions and makes people uncomfortable addressing you. You will not be able to get a good conversation if you make the other person uncomfortable.
I know how you feel.:(
We men believe that there are clean girls left.
And when a filthy girl comes pretending to be a clean girls , that is real heart break.
Jimmy, this is not necessary. I dont understand how you can communicate if you dont respect boundaries? Is this how you talk to people?
I clearly told you under what circumstances that happens.
One of my friend was able to sleep with out intoxication him self for a long time.
Other on long distance used to cery over the phone.
Both *****es wanted to walk out of marriage be cause the started sleeping with other boys during marriage BEFORE divorce.
ARE THEY EVEN QUALIFIED TO CALLED WIVES???????
But HELL yes they acted like angles when TRAPPING my friends.
I know at least 6 women who have been made fools out of by men after marriage. They were trapped for greencard scams and continued relationships after marriage with girlfriends. What do you say to that? You havent even addressed the behavior of men but you seem to want to strip women of their chastity here.
I dont know what kind of women you were brought up around or what you have seen growing up. You need to stop generalizing and painting all women with the same brush. Its insulting to those who are good and trying to be good.