Re: Why are muslim parents so concerned about little little things?
i like the title of this thread, little little things=chhoti chhoti batein
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I don't celebrate Valentines Day and I will not go out of my way to be involved in celebrations of it. But I don't mind little school activities and such. I just don't want it to become something that is planned for or anticipated.
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because hindu will be hindu even if he fasts during ramazan or prays at mosque....
i have seen a hindu praying salah in mosque but that does not make him non hindu....
but if we pray at some temple or church we will become murtad.......
Re: Why are muslim parents so concerned about little little things?
because hindu will be hindu even if he fasts during ramazan or prays at mosque....
i have seen a hindu praying salah in mosque but that does not make him non hindu....
but if we pray at some temple or church we will become murtad.......
Lakum deenukum waliya deeni . :D I Hope You Understand What I Mean?
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yes BM
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I don't see the harm in it.
My parents NEVER allowed ANY sort of mingling of any kind with people that were not Muslim. I understand their perspective and reasoning. If I was in their shoes, I might have done the same and Alhumdulillah we don't find VDay to be suchhhhhhh a big deal now.
But as kids I think at times their approach sort of alienated us too. We were always the odd ones out...never doing anything any of the other kids did. That's just how it was for us. We were always different and stood out.
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you know whats interesting.. for every American holiday, someone opens a thread discussing the very same thing.. its mostly the same people with pretty much the same opinion!!
Those of us who didnt grow up in the US are probably a bit different thant he ones who did in terms of raising our children so lets just keep the differences and move on!!
I dont intend to make my child confused between Islam, Pakistan, and America so I will have to put in a lot more effort to invest in his upbringing to find that balance for his personality that he will be proud of, inshaAllah!
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OK yesterday I have seen v-day being celebrated in Karachi like an eid day ....it was crazy !
I don't like and approve the idea of celebrating V-day but this is just my point of view. I would not want my daughter to celebrate this day at this age unless she wants to celebrate it with her hubby when she grows up. But having said that if in future her school will hold any activity to celebrate this day I will not stop her because I don't want her to feel the odd one or feel any inferior .
One has to decide according to the environment and circumstances I don't think that by celebrating V-day she will not grow up to be a good muslim.
In Pakistan, they are celebrating V day in a way that it is not even celebrated in Canada. Frankly, what I am seeing on all the Pakistani t.v. channels is overboard and sickening ... and they are celebrating V-day for the entire week - not just the day.
At the most, the kids just give each other a card (hand made or store purchased) and a few chocolates and that's it. Not even the morning shows over here did anything crazy unlike the ones in Pakistan.
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I always thought V-day was for couples but may be the trends are changing…schools suck because they promote consumerism. 
They won’t teach you history of St. Valentine’s day (heck they won’t even teach you what does St stand for) but they will teach you to buy chocs and cards.
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Talking to kids in details about Non-Muslim events and how we should JOIN Non-Muslims in THEIR celebrations but understand that its not something that we follow/approve requires time and effort which many of the Muslim parents dont want to put in.
Whats the way out? "dont do it, its haram"
We dont 'celebrate' V-Day but we dont mind sending with kids 3$ worth of cards for their friends. To see beaming faces of the kids after receiving 'superman' or 'dora' cards is priceless and free of religious boundaries !
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Same parents can not hide their joy when teacher tell all kids in the class (including Non-Muslims) about Eid or Ramadan. We cant brag (and praise) enough how schools are accommodating and promoting cross-religion interaction.
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btw, Ammi was telling me (and its obvious from Pakistani TV channels) that now in Pakistan they celebrate V-Day with even more energy than Eid. --- There u have it
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I will never go out of my way to celebrate V day, or take my kids trick or treating etc etc but if it's something they do in school, I dont have issues with it.. jaisa dais, waisa bhais! but I will make sure they learn that it's not our tradition and we can celebrate every Friday as a family day and I will have no issues with making that special for them!!!
Just because hallmark tells me to buy chocolates/flowers today.. I refuse to be a victim of that.
I second that, I don't stop children sending candies to school and give it to their friends. But I will not go all out of way celebrating it. And in middle school and high school these things usually fade away so no need to suppress it on children that we have to celebrate hallmark occasions.
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why are we allf orgetting that just because people in Pakistan celebrate it doesnt warrant that we, the overseas Pakistanis, should be proud of or condemn them.
When I was growing up, Pakistanis followed everything that Indians did and now they do everything that Americans do.. they dont have their own identity simple because parents dont make Eid special enough for their children.. I mean I dont remember having any eid mubarak wrapping paper available in Pakistan to wrap gifts but look at the heart stuff around.. it's everywhere!!
I am sorry but lets not compare ourselves to Pakistanis in Pakistan who have forgotten their roots and identity!!or even use them in the argument of just because....!!
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Strawman argument (and a very bad one) to compare religious holidays with some cheesy man made commercial nonsense that you call V-day.
For every Ramadan/Eid talks in school, you also have talks about Easter, Diwali, Shabbat and Guru Nanak's birthday, so how exactly celebrating V-day is a payback time for poor Muslims?
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I actually feel quite old fashioned, what kids under the age of 8/9 got to do with V-day? I went to a Catholic primary school not so long ago, so can't really relate to the whole card and candy business. But its quite pathetic to see a holiday supposedly for adults, is being shoved down on little kids. What do kids know about romance, relationship and hormones, all things V-day signifies?
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why are we allf orgetting that just because people in Pakistan celebrate it doesnt warrant that we, the overseas Pakistanis, should be proud of or condemn them.
When I was growing up, Pakistanis followed everything that Indians did and now they do everything that Americans do.. they dont have their own identity simple because parents dont make Eid special enough for their children.. I mean I dont remember having any eid mubarak wrapping paper available in Pakistan to wrap gifts but look at the heart stuff around.. it's everywhere!!
I am sorry but lets not compare ourselves to Pakistanis in Pakistan who have forgotten their roots and identity!!or even use them in the argument of just because....!!
very valid point........... pakistanis in pakistan are messed up beyond repair now.......''they'' are represented by whats shown on the tv channels....
Re: Why are muslim parents so concerned about little little things?
why are we allf orgetting that just because people in Pakistan celebrate it doesnt warrant that we, the overseas Pakistanis, should be proud of or condemn them.
When I was growing up, Pakistanis followed everything that Indians did and now they do everything that Americans do.. they dont have their own identity simple because parents dont make Eid special enough for their children.. I mean I dont remember having any eid mubarak wrapping paper available in Pakistan to wrap gifts but look at the heart stuff around.. it's everywhere!!
I am sorry but lets not compare ourselves to Pakistanis in Pakistan who have forgotten their roots and identity!!or even use them in the argument of just because....!!
Living in West made me realize one thing first AH I am in U.S. and second thing is I am raising my children as Muslims and telling every right thing about Islam. In Pakistan its so much mixture of Western and Indian culture that people start to forget their own beliefs. Inna Lillah he wa inna ilae her rajeoon
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Straw man argument (a very bad one) to compare religious holidays with some cheesy man made commercial nonsense that you call V-day.
For every Ramadan/Eid talks in school, you also have talks about Easter, Diwali, Shabbat and Guru Nanak's birthday, so how exactly celebrating V-day is a payback time for poor Muslims?
I was more taking about the reaction of parents on teachings of Muslims festivals which greatly differs to that of their reaction when kids take part or information about Non-Muslim festivals.
No one is preaching to go out of the way and 'celebrate' V-Day but as long are parents are communicating with kids properly, there is NO harm in kids taking cards for their friends.
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I was more taking about the reaction of parents on teachings of Muslims festivals which greatly differs to that of their reaction when kids take part or information about Non-Muslim festivals.
No one is preaching to go out of the way and 'celebrate' V-Day but as long are parents are communicating with kids properly, there is NO harm in kids taking cards for their friends.
I don't know about USA, but over here, V day is not a festival, Christmas is and so is Diwali and Eid, but V-day is a just a day with all sorts of commercial fluff associated with. If you think about we literally have a day for everything in the West, are they all considered festivals? Its a shame commcerial world can't really cash heart day, Diabetes day, poetry day, women's day, children's day, rose day, earth day, boss day, animals day, kidney day...the list is endless.
I would understand if parents who appreciate school promoting Eid opposing school's promotion of Diwali. Thats an all valid and relevant issue.
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I actually feel quite old fashioned, what kids under the age of 8/9 got to do with V-day? I went to a Catholic primary school not so long ago, so can't really relate to the whole card and candy business. But its quite pathetic to see a holiday supposedly for adults, is being shoved down on little kids. What do kids know about romance, relationship and hormones, all things V-day signifies?
You are also from England, right? It's different in North America. We celebrate everything. Holidays like Halloween, Thanksgiving, etc. are not really a big deal in the UK/Europe.
Also, a while ago I already mentioned in another thread that it is our duty as Muslims to promote Eid and holidays when the time comes. It's our job to educate other kids and their parents and to show (and include them) in our festivities.
That's what I did on Eid with my son. I got his friends Eid presents and sent Sonu to daycare in a nice shalwar kameez. The other parents were surprised and didn't realize that it was our holiday. We have a responsibility as well, right?