where is the ghandi of islam?

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the "ummah" doesn't have what it takes to produce a Gandhi

where there is no will, there is no way.

Re: where is the ghandi of islam?

Quote: the "ummah" doesn't have what it takes to produce a Gandhi

where there is no will, there is no way.


Agreed. Currently, the Muslim world is incapable of producing a Gandhi or a Martin Luther King. Its ideology is too stunted. However, the subcontinent had a lot of "Sufi saints" who were perhaps the last to be respected by one and all for their teachings and ideals.

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Muslims in amerika don’t have much room to manouver at all, the government is so anti islam regarding its politics that the muslims will jump on any bandwagon that favours them even in slight terms.

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Human emotion and needs always trump ideals. The questions themselves are moot. God’s words are always interpreted. But then, things work both ways too. If a democracy suddenly decided it WAS okay to kill, it all of a sudden is. Such is the case during war time. I saw no serious attempt at compromise or deliberation on this matter.

Muslims as of late have been killing out of perceived necesity, and what’s more it’s been on the fringe. The western nations have been murdering also, in the name of higher causes.

All parties will eventually compromise, again once it is to expensive to follow ideals.

The violent fringe in Muslim territories simply want to be left alone, not this nonsense of converting the world to Islam. If the West had announced that it would simply leave Muslim lands, far from the expansionist nazi-like movmeent would emerge. Rather, the reason d’etre for OBL and his ilk would evaporate…there would be internal turmoil no doubt, but it’s not as if the West had been a stabalizing factor over the past 50 years.

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Sure. But this is just more work, as we Muslims will not only need to form a functioning state, but a Church as well! :bukbuk:

No churches in Islam, let’s keep it that way.

There is only the state, and seeing as how Islam is an important social force, the state will naturally have to reconcile with it.

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Muslims have more freedom to practice their religion in America than in any Muslim country you fool. Your hatred, racism and bias comes through in every post and displays how you don’t know what you are talking about. They can’t get designated as a ‘non-Muslim’ by the government and their mosques don’t get bombed like where you are from. They have as much room to maneouver as they choose. If you can get off the terrorist watch list, you really ought to visit America and see for yourself the tremondous freedoms Muslims enjoy.

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A religion should rise about (or mayhap you mean above) human nature? Er since when were humans such perfect beings. Goodness you’re living in lala land seminole. I wouldnt have expected it of you. :stuck_out_tongue:

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the fool is u airhole i was talking about Politics not a weekend visit to disneyland get an education replying to your posts is like talking to a baby.

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A religion should rise above the lowest common denominator. Of course humans aren’t perfect and that’s why religion should encourage spiritual behavior and not give religious justifications for less than spritual behavior.

AK, you have nothing to contribute but baby babble. Go take a nappy.

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Actually in the case of Gandhi, it was where there is no will…To fight…There is a way…:ahaa:

Become the poster child for a non-violent movement, hype it so much that you sound like the Buddha himself and have people emulate his theory making them easier to mow down…

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Actually it should be do muslims want a ghandhi and the answer is no way.

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who is your ideal leader living now?

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you people need ghandi??? a bagger
ghndi was hundu leader who begged for freedom.

shame on you and you called your self muslims.

yes your leadrs are bagger ofcourse you need more baggers.

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^ shut up you tea bagger!!! :rolleyes:

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all extremist fanatics think same way

In Modi’s Gujarat, Hitler is a textbook hero (Sept 30 2004, Times of India)
AHMEDABAD: Gandhi is not so great, but Hitler is. Welcome to high school education in Narendra Modi’s Gujarat, where authors of social studies textbooks published by the Gujarat State Board of School Textbooks have found faults with the freedom movement and glorified Fascism and Nazism.

While a Class VIII student is taught ‘negative aspects’ of Gandhi’s non-cooperation movement, the Class X social studies textbook has chapters on ‘Hitler, the Supremo’ and ‘Internal Achievements of Nazism’
http://www.imc-usa.org/cgi-bin/cfm/weeklyDigest.cfm?WDID=103#N1

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And pray tell where Islam discourages spiritual behaviour , and where does it give religious justifications for less than that specific behaviour which you have named.

Are you implying that religion is to blame for the idiotic behaviour of some air heads ? :o

I wish you would make some sense once in a while.

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you may interpret in good way but not ak-47

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dude!!! even if you’re in CA marijuana is not legal unless under very very special circumstances. Are you sure you qualify under that?:rotfl:

Centuries from now human kind will think back and wonder in amazement that such a great man walked amongst us in flesh and blood

Can you guess who said this about whom? I am sure you can. I sure hope you can.

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:hehe:

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is this dude asayb for real or is he making this up? :rotfl: