What's going on in Canada? Harper OUT, Liberals IN

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Shouldn't Muslims be expected to abide by the laws of the countries? Of course. However, identity verfication isn't the issue here. That is already being done before they get to the oath. Besides when they introduced this so called law, they didn't it without any process and just announced it on a whim. On top of that, the courts ruled against it multiple times, so there's no question of her not following the law. She hasn't done anything wrong (legally speaking). She got her citizenship last week while wearing the niqab in the ceremony.

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I wouldn't say she's breaking the law if court had ruled against it. This argument is totally invalid.

However, the merit or at least the need to wear niqaab in Western countries needs to be discussed amongst Muslim. When the practice is neither complusory in Islam nor brings any good name to your religion, should you really bother? I would think your service to your religion would come before personal comforts etc. Right?

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The best service to your religion is to practice it to the best of your abilities. That aside, what I was trying to point out since I first replied to the thread is that this stuff is being made an issue for political reasons only, to distract from issues that are magnitudes greater. Only then do we see widespread sentiment or alarm about these things. This isn't the first time they've made the niqab an issue for political points and most likely won't be the last.

If not the niqab, (non Muslim) people will make issues of other things, such as halal food, halal financing schemes, segregation in mosques, hijabs or anything having any connection to Islam.

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Comparing Canada to conservative muslim countries? I thought Canada was a liberal country.

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Have beheadings, hand choppings, polygamy, apostasy deaths stopped because of it? It is business as usual.
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Where? I have no idea what you're getting at here.

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MashaAllah feeling proud of her (indeed success is from Allah) .at the same time getting jealous of her..
Emaan raising...
May Allah bless this lady and help her at every step of her life Ameen

Re: What’s going on in Canada?

This is where ulema differ. For someone that wears niqab, it is in fact compulsory and we should respect that.

Like @Captain_Obvious pointed out, the perception ( and/or persecution ) of muslims is out of ignorance and xenophobia. If we simply change our ways, we are not adding any value to this society and we are missing out on an opportunity to educate them. Not because they are ‘backward’, but because we want to leave a better society for our kids.

Frankly, I’d be more wary of muslims who go ‘underground’ when they encounter such bigotry, rather than challenge it lawfully. Those are the ones that are capable of real damage to the muslims in the west.

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I don’t know why when Prophet Muhammad said otherwise. I agree with Jolie that you are standing out which negates the whole purpose.

@picoico: It must be iceland that we were discussing here. You are right, no crucifixions there… :halo:

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This woman did not file this political and fraudulent suit on her own. It is Jamaat Islami and ICNA.

Civilization Jihad, the Niqab, and the Liberal Party of Canada | TSEC Network

“Zunera Ishaq works for Islamic Circle of North America (Sisters) in Ontario[1]](http://tsecnetwork.ca/2015/10/11/civilization-jihad-the-niqab-and-the-liberal-party-of-canada/#_edn1) and previously worked for ICNA main group. The ICNA is an ideological mirror image of the Muslim Brotherhood and Jamaat-e-Islamia (JeI).”
“Ms. Ishaq also shows on her Facebook page that she is a member of the Jamaat-e-Islami Facebook group. The JeI was founded by al-Maududi. His view, according to his own book, is that:“Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earthwhich are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it.”
It should be noted that the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) of Mississauga had its charitable status revoked for funding terrorism (The ISNA Development Fund). The terrorist group in question was the Jamaat-e-Islami. Like the ICNA, the ISNA is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood.”

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I know a lil bit about ICNA and ISNA. And i’ve no idea wut u r talking about!! They are not even close to wut JI teaches or brotherhood does. ICNA does a lot of charity work and has a big say while working alongwith US govt etc. I’ve attended ICNA convention and their speakers like yasir qadhi, Nauman Ali khan etc are all those which are very progressive muslim speakers.

Infact most of the hardcore muslims actually are against ICNA/ISNA due to their mixed gatherings etc so i think its quite unfair to push every single islamic org and charge them with extremism just like FOX news.

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This sums up the whole issue very nicely.

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I’ve seen tiny bit of the video but I’m guessing it sums up a lot of folks in this thread as well.

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So afterall there IS some anti-muslim thing going in Kana-adda :stuck_out_tongue:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/with-anti-muslim-campaign-canada-has-its-trump-moment.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share&referer=http://t.co/I4M93vyiyO&_r=0

With Anti-Muslim Campaign, Canada Has Its Trump Moment

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I think somebody just read this thread and made this video to explain the issue to americans:

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A quick update - polls have closed now. Everybody’s projecting a Liberal government (Conservatives are the ones bringing up this non-issue) :alhamd:

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I am quite liking the election results so far :smiley:

This I found amusing:Canadians fed up with divisive niqab debate turn out to vote in masks and ? in one case ? a pumpkin

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I was considering wearing a niqab to vote.
:rotfl:

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Breaking news: https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12140168_994197067304331_108068633452967488_o.jpg

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Just got the alert from NYtimes.. so all favourite Harper has lost and liberals have won?

How good thing is that?

Did our Kanadian guppies vote?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/20/world/americas/canada-election-stephen-harper-justin-trudeau.html

In Canada, Surprise Win for Justin Trudeau

Re: What's going on in Canada? Harper OUT, Liberals IN

Absolutely I voted.
Couldn't let the misogynist Harper continue.....