Now you are saying NO - earlier you concluded Theorist 's post as the best answer of my question
were you at mistake earlier or are you at mistake now
if they were the need of the hour to consolidate power - Bhoy I tell you - we need that consolidation hour again as we Muslims as an Ummah going through a very hard time thesedays ā¦
Thus - it brings us back to a point where we can say - we should implement ā the once successfully implemented system ā again
The reason for the fairer system being prevalent in the US is because they have the infrastructure in place to achieve some sort of justice. It is not due to secularism so much as it is to do with the fact that they have power and calibrated their machine ā¦ I would question whether US is even full secular.
Barbaric from whose POV? You always look at the punishment from consensual sex perspective, but what if the guy was a serial rapist or even worst, child rapist?
No one from PBUHās companions and Khulfa-e-rasheen made any amendments in the laws prescribed by Quran and Prophet PBUH .. so you cant hold them accountable for something which they havent done ā¦
well camel still exists and very much help at locations where technology often fails
That my dear is for you to ask Allah mian, He made the haram halal rules. My problem is that I sorta give a damn about what He has asked us not to do.
Now my views arenāt stopping anyone from boozing the night away, so whatās *your *problem? But yes if I was asked to vote on whether IceSoul should be allowed to open a pub in Makkah, Iād vote no. Why? Mere Khuda ki marzi, kar lo jo karna hai.
Yeah TLK ā¦ I was gonna point out ā¦ barbaric a punishment may be so but surely that strikes fear in to the heart of the would be criminal. It also serves to purge the person of their sin and they leave the world sinless ā¦ People often who did crimes after hearing that worldly penalties remove their sins actually CHOSE the maximum punishments in order to receive forgiveness and that is what is documented today.
The problem is people tend to focus on this life being the means all end all ā¦ but we see the Hereafter as the real abode. To an atheist the only thing I can say is if you donāt believe in the Hereafter then donāt give yourself up after sinning ā¦ if you want to sin in an Islamic state then do so discretely just donāt get caught, and if you do ā¦ deny it and if there is no evidence against you then you canāt get punished ā¦ It is so easy. Or just donāt commit adultery in the first place ā¦ of course that is another option ā¦
Why not? When debating secularism, why not debate all aspects of it? If secularism was to be implemented in Saudi, sure it would get rid of plenty of retarded rules of theirs that I donāt agree with but it would also mean legalising haram things which Iām not about to vote yes to. There needs to be a balance and looking at the secular nations, I just donāt see that balance. Whatās perfectly legal, acceptable, moral and the norm in these societies isnāt something Iād like to see being practised in an Islamic society.
