What is haram di kamai?

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@tissues

OP asked for religious guidance hence people giving their opinions, if you don’t know anything then SHUT UP & refrain from posting in such threads & keep your ignorance to yourself.

That’s mighty rude. You’re free to not read what someone writes but asking someone to shut up is plain rude.

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@Pakistani_Prince

**Muslims believe, **Lol, Prophet ( PBUH ) delivered the msg of ALLAH , HE did not add or subtract anything at his personal will. Quran is the word of ALLAH, not the word of any Prophet.

**Are you trying to say that ALLAH did not know what’s going to come or happen in future specially in 21st century ?
**Chill out bro. She’s simply challenging your beliefs. Refute whatever she’s saying by providing proof for your beliefs.

Muslims believe, ISLAM and its laws are in line with nature and science and we can practice it in any era and age . **Muslims believe, **seculars and atheists like you have built up your life style on animal instincts and now you see ISLAM and its laws a big obstacle in your way…

**Muslims believe, **they do not have to prove the authenticity of Ismlaic laws or Quran. They believe, others should check their tone before uttering words on this forum, or anywhere lest you want to be killed. You can speak your heart out but not really. You can not go around mentioning the names of Muslim Prophets in a ridiculous way..

Fixed it for you

[Pakistani_Prince]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

That’s mighty rude. You’re free to not reread what someone writes but asking someone to shut up is plain rude.

The cartoonists of Denmark and Norwey use this same justification to insult Prophets and religions..

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SindSagar

Don’t you realize you just made a very negative comment about Islam and on top of that you being so coy about it :nono:

The comment is critical but doesn’t sound too bad. Stop harassing folks.

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@Pakistani_Prince

The cartoonists of Denmark and Norwey use this same justification to insult Prophets and religions..

I support their right to draw whatever they want to draw. Also, it is a good idea not to get offended on the smallest of issues. I was in Karachi when the Denmark cartoons first came out. Our stupid people ransacked our own city, destroyed our own property protesting those cartoons. Denmarkion ka to kuch na bigra.

Your prophet might be important to you but to others he’s just another historical figure. People criticize historical figures all the time. Heck, people criticize the reigning US president. Imagine, people not being able to criticize the Orange Man just because he’s our president and we think he’s so awesome (I don’t think that but there are people who do).

[LP]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

Nvm. Not worth the discussion.

[tissues]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

That’s mighty rude. You’re free to not read what someone writes but asking someone to shut up is plain rude.

Its interesting how you found my post rude. Anyways you are free not to read what I wrote, rude or not rude.

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@LP

From the point of view of a practicing Muslim, it is derogatory. I am sure you realize that.

I don’t think Relationships section is the place for such comments. People don’t expect religious debates here. However, there are posters who request a religious perspective on things. In such cases, non-relgious folks should either avoid the thread or try to give their perspective without bringing religion into things. I wouldn’t discuss religion with someone I met in person unless they wanted to. Then why do it here? The wanting to discuss religion happens when a member ventures into the Religion and Philosophy section.

That said, the correct way to deal with someone criticizing religion is to invite them to open a thread in Religion & Philosophy. That’s a lot better that accusing someone of not knowing what they’re talking about or asking them to shut up.

[SaeedinPakistan]

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@tissues

Its interesting how you found my post rude. Anyways you are free not to read what I wrote, rude or not rude.

I’ll give you that one. You’re a fast learner, glad I could help :).

[SindSagar]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

I don’t think Relationships section is the place for such comments. People don’t expect religious debates here. However, there are posters who request a religious perspective on things. In such cases, non-relgious folks should either avoid the thread or try to give their perspective without bringing religion into things. I wouldn’t discuss religion with someone I met in person unless they wanted to. Then why do it here? The wanting to discuss religion happens when a member ventures into the Religion and Philosophy section.

That said, the correct way to deal with someone criticizing religion is to invite them to open a thread in Religion & Philosophy. That’s a lot better that accusing someone of not knowing what they’re talking about or asking them to shut up.

In this instance the “Agnostic Poster” an unmarried person was encouraging a married Lady with children to ignore her values and become an EXIBITIONIST! you think that is Kosher Saeed Sahib?

[LP]

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@SaeedinPakistan

That said, the correct way to deal with someone criticizing religion is to invite them to open a thread in Religion & Philosophy.

Agreed

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

The religion was established in 7th Century and for non-Muslims Muhammad is just a man. Therefore, he could not have foreseen a lot of stuff that’s happening today just like I can’t foresee what’ll happen a thousand years from now. That said, the comment, though not offensive, doesn’t really help the OP. The reason you’re getting so much flak for it is because folks perusing the Relationships section don’t care much for discussing religion. I think you’ll find a more receptive audience in Religion & Philosophy.

Not discussing religion is the best bet though. For example, the real problem here is that OP’s husband isn’t comfortable with her pursuing this line of work. He doesn’t think it’s Haram. He’s just not comfortable with the idea. She has several options here depending on the health of her relationship.

1. He sucks, this is the last straw:

• Couldn’t be easier, leave him

2. Else

• Look for another line of work
• Talk to him, see why he’s objecting to this, try to convince him

That’s my two cents.

I mean, she said herself that is was based off her husband’s discomfort. Even before factoring in her husband, this is something she was not opposed to doing so it is not like she was having a moral crisis about it earlier. Her asking about “haram di kamai” is something that came afterwards in her train of thought after her husband’s rejection of what she wanted to do. What I wanted to critique is that sometimes trying to apply principles from a bygone era to something like this is not practical, and that shoehorning religion is not necessary for what she wants to do. She is free to reject my opinion if she is truly dedicated to being a full on practicing Muslim but just from reading the OP whether it was “haram di kamai” was not something she was thinking about. Literally, this is how dumb religious debates come about. People try to mask their hatred or discomfort of something “modern” and try to shoehorn religion in to give their discomfort some weight when it doesn’t add anything but appeal to peoples morals.

I’m getting flak for it because people think me stating objective truths (that Islam was established in the 7th century and thus would have some principles that were products of the time of Muhammed) is somehow attacking their entire being.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@tissues

OP asked for religious guidance hence people giving their opinions, if you don’t know anything then SHUT UP & refrain from posting in such threads & keep your ignorance to yourself.

I see I hurt some feelings.

[SindSagar]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

The comment is critical but doesn’t sound too bad. Stop harassing folks.

**Actually this the right place to point out that In this instance the “Agnostic Poster” an unmarried person was encouraging a married Lady with children to Totally ignore her values and become an EXIBITIONIST! you think that is Kosher Saeed Sahib?
**

[tissues]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

I’ll give you that one. You’re a fast learner, glad I could help :).

Thanks… now go encourage people who pass insensitive remarks & bash Islam out of their ignorance in the name of “freedom of speech”.

[SindSagar]

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@IsaidwhatIsaid

I see I hurt some feelings.

**No as I pointed out to Mr Saeed, you are preaching your belief and incouraging a married lady with children to become an exibitionist!

Now tell me will you do what the girls do on the website the OP mentioned?**

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SindSagar

In this instance the “Agnostic Poster” an unmarried person was encouraging a married Lady with children to ignore her values and become an EXIBITIONIST! you think that is Kosher Saeed Sahib?

Doesn’t matter what I think. This is between the OP and her husband. The OP is married which means she can’t do whatever she wants to do without consulting her spouse. The same principle applies if the husband wants to do something the wife disapproves.

I have nothing against Exhibitionists or anyone trying to make an honest living. However, I probably wouldn’t wanna marry one and if a spouse or girlfriend wanted to do this I wouldn’t approve (either they drop dreams of being on the App or we both go our own ways). That’s just me though. I’m sure there are men out there who’d love for their wives to get into this business and I probably wouldn’t judge them for it.

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SaeedinPakistan

I don’t think Relationships section is the place for such comments. People don’t expect religious debates here. However, there are posters who request a religious perspective on things. In such cases, non-relgious folks should either avoid the thread or try to give their perspective without bringing religion into things. I wouldn’t discuss religion with someone I met in person unless they wanted to. Then why do it here? The wanting to discuss religion happens when a member ventures into the Religion and Philosophy section.

That said, the correct way to deal with someone criticizing religion is to invite them to open a thread in Religion & Philosophy. That’s a lot better that accusing someone of not knowing what they’re talking about or asking them to shut up.

@tissues

Thanks… now go encourage people who pass insensitive remarks & bash Islam out of their ignorance in the name of “freedom of speech”.

I think the above comment provides a reasonable guideline on how to approach religion online and in real life. Cliff Notes: Avoid talking about religion (& politics) unless the other person brings it up.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@SindSagar

No as I pointed out to Mr Saeed, you are preaching your belief and incouraging a married lady with children to become an exibitionist! Now tell me will you do what the girls do n the website the OP mentioned?

I have no interest in doing that. However, just because I do not want to do it does not mean it is an invalid thing to do. I do not want to ice skate, doesn’t mean I think it is an inferior thing to do. If you read the OP, she says this:

“I don’t wanna do this to chat to guys I wanna do this to make some money… one kushra from Pakistan does a game show thing, I was thinking of doing something similar…”

She is not doing this with the purpose of flirting with men. She wanted to have some little gimmick, like a game show and make money off of it from home while she is with her baby. Wow, what a truly disgusting and explicit thing to engage in. Lmfao, the dramatics of you all.

[third_string]

Re: What is haram di kamai?

@IsaidwhatIsaid

I have no interest in doing that. However, just because I do not want to do it does not mean it is an invalid thing to do. I do not want to ice skate, doesn’t mean I think it is an inferior thing to do. If you read the OP, she says this:

“I don’t wanna do this to chat to guys I wanna do this to make some money… one kushra from Pakistan does a game show thing, I was thinking of doing something similar…”

She is not doing this with the purpose of flirting with men. She wanted to have some little gimmick, like a game show and make money off of it from home while she is with her baby. Wow, what a truly disgusting and explicit thing to engage in. Lmfao, the dramatics of you all.

That’s how it starts, then gradually the clients want to see more.