Re: What is a sect? [split from 73 sects]
Well all shias believe that the 12 imam are infallible....it does not make all of them extremist.
Diwana, it is not all hard to become shia after birth...I know of many muslims who were not shias and later in their lives started practicing/believing in this school of thought.
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Lets be united on our love for Ahl-ul-Bayt instead of trying to compete by blows below the belt. We can be an ummah despite our differences.
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ditto!
Well all shias believe that the 12 imam are infallible....it does not make all of them extremist.
Diwana, it is not all hard to become shia after birth...I know of many muslims who were not shias and later in their lives started practicing/believing in this school of thought.
ditto!
I'm pretty sure there are couple of non-12ers on this forum, they will tell you otherwise. The rafidha don't like to acknowledge it I guess, they even have some sunnis confused as seen on this forum.
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Lets be united on our love for Ahl-ul-Bayt instead of trying to compete by blows below the belt. We can be an ummah despite our differences.
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psyah bro, I respectfully disagree with you on that. People who believe in the following are not considered part of this ummah..
Ahle Sunnah is unanimous in declaring them kafir, for the last 1300 years. There should be no ifs or buts about it.
bro Basim…do you seriously think that a najidi nasibi kid is able enough to answer a question or two?
Re: What is a sect? [split from 73 sects]
yea........really smart once again..........but of course.......using aqal is "haraam" for the najidi creed.........now thats something to really LOL abt........:)
yea........really smart once again..........but of course.......using aqal is "haraam" for the najidi creed.........now thats something to really LOL abt........:)
May Allah curse those who curse the believers.
Re: What is a sect? [split from 73 sects]
ok guys, lets stay on the topic of defining the sect and not bashing each other.
May Allah curse those who curse the believers.
Ameen..........and on the top of that list shall be the king who started the custom of cursing the Ameerul Momineen from the mimbar.............well done for saying a good thing for once.......
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but we should keep in mind that not every shia believes in all 4 of them... i know plenty of ppl who don't believe points 2 and 4.(especially 4)
Brother, it's better if you go study than to accuse me of whatever that comes to your mind. *You clearly have no idea what or who a shia is and how many groups they have within their sect. *
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btw, diwana now you see who the extremists shia are? They say their 12 imams are infallible, the Ahle Sunnah have declared them non-believers long ago. Stop trying to act politically correcto like a fairy in lala land, come back to reality. :)
You know what CP, if 'studying' religion makes people like you, then it may be better not to study. What you study may be quite different than other anyway.
Yes, everyone who you might not agree, is kaafir. Pretty much sums it.
It is not about being politically correct, it is about knowing what should be correct.
Like I said your posts tell a lot about your agenda of spreading hatred.
Re: What is a sect? [split from 73 sects]
but we should keep in mind that not every shia believes in all 4 of them... i know plenty of ppl who don't believe points 2 and 4.(especially 4)
all 1,2,3,4 are all erroneous notions..........u shud know better than that!
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Diwana, it is not all hard to become shia after birth...I know of many muslims who were not shias and later in their lives started practicing/believing in this school of thought.
Okay. I did say I might be wrong there. :)
all 1,2,3,4 are all erroneous notions..........u shud know better than that!
i know that, i am just correcting him....
Fabrications, lies and distortions by the rafidha. Nothing new there.
They also believe in taqiyya, meaning they hide their beliefs. Now if they say they don’t believe in this[taqiyya] then they are lying to you. They might try to fool us by saying “o it’s only to save a life”, but their actions speak otherwise. One particular member on this forum has already done this. 
You know what CP, if 'studying' religion makes people like you, then it may be better not to study. What you study may be quite different than other anyway.
Yes, everyone who you might not agree, is kaafir. Pretty much sums it.
It is not about being politically correct,** it is about knowing what should be correct. ** Like I said your posts tell a lot about your agenda of spreading hatred.
Then why not follow up on your principle? Why shy away from it? If something doesn't make sense to you or is not in line with your "thinking" of today, you will reject it. If that's the case, there's no room for "correctness" that you preach. You clearly had no idea what I was talking about yet you accused me of dunno what!
all 1,2,3,4 are all erroneous notions..........u shud know better than that!
Takkkiiiyyyyyaaaa!
Ahle Sunnah is unanimous in declaring them kafir, for the last 1300 years. There should be no ifs or buts about it.
Brother, the maraje take everything they have learned from the Qur'aan and (some) ahadith, obviously if the ahadith is against or out of line with the qur'aan, it is not authentic, and it is not a law. If the laws are taken form the Qur'aan, why would it not be the law of Allah (swt)? Maraje are nothing but so, to help us understand.
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Volume 9, Book 92, Number 406:
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the mother of believers) Allah's Apostle during his fatal ailment said, "Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer." I said, "If Abu Bakr stood at your place (in prayers, the people will not be able to hear him because of his weeping, so order 'Umar to lead the people in prayer." He again said, "Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer " Then I said to Hafsa, "Will you say (to the Prophet), 'If Abu Bakr stood at your place, the people will not be able to hear him be cause of his weeping, so order 'Umar to lead the people in prayer?" Hafsa did so, whereupon Allah's Apostle said, "You are like the companions of Joseph (See Qur'an, 12:30-32). Order Abu Bakr to lead the people in prayer." Hafsa then said to me, "I have never received any good from you!"
I discussed this earlier in this thread. Following Ali (as) does not mean denying Ali (as).
Ever heard of misyar?
Ahl e Tashi and Ahl e Sunnat both have had some disagreements in declaring the non-believers as najis, the Shia have unanimously declared nawaasibs as najaasat though.
I think agree with diwana, you are just pretending that you know alot about them but you have no knowledge of their belief system. All you are you are doing picking up “buzz words”, making generalizations and mocking them.
I think agree with diwana, you are just pretending that you know alot about them but you have no knowledge of their belief system. All you are you are doing picking up "buzz words", making generalizations and mocking them.
Thank you! I do agree that some of us do go overboard, but there are hypocrites and exaggerators in every sect. Cricketplaya loves to get his information form the unsourced ahlelbayt.com. You get Shiasm from the Shia, not the shia hater!
The same diwana who said Shias are like Jews, that they can only be shias if they are born to shia family? Then he went on to accuse me.. Come on!
@Jafri, ever heard of the Qur’an? 1 to 114. It’s a wonderful holy book. Nothing like the lies and fabrications of the rafidah.
and your holy site answering-ansar is a typical practitioner of takiyya! http://www.sunnidefense.com/exp/
Fabrications, lies and distortions by the rafidha. Nothing new there.
by rafidha you mean ur king muawiya the one who rejected the rightly guided caliph of his time, right?...............masha allah......u have started to speak the truth after the beautiful prayer u said above..........