Re: What if...
My dear friend Popat – Peace
You don’t really have to feel paranoid. I am not stalking you. This is a public debating forum to express ones point of view. If you post anything here, expect it to be challenged and even refuted with backing of credible evidence. It seems like insecurity is creeping in on to you.
Come on, everybody on this board who ventures in ‘Religion section’ knows what you are peddling. Even the occasional poster or viewer knows that you always pitching for Ahmadi/Qadiani beliefs. Of course you have every right to do so. Just as much as I have to express my views. Me? Jumping up and down? Surely you must be hallucinating?
If you discuss on any topic say, cricket, football, or politics, take my word for that I will not drag jamaat e ahmadiyya into that that discussion. With my right hand on my heart I promise you so.
I do not come here to win debates or anything like that. I'm a seeker after truth. And alhamdulillah i'm very satisfied with what i'm on, and that is the true teachings of Islam. You are more than welcome to disagree to that.. I wouldn't really care.
Ibn Sadique, writing paragraphs after paragraphs is not going to help you. It's a pity to see that after how much we have talked about on various issues, you have not learnt a single thing. But thats not something that surprises me.
You seem to be very interested in jamaat e ahmadiyya. Why don't you open another thread and I shall answer you to whatever question you have.
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First of all let’s get this right - Islam is faith which Prophet Muhammad preached and practiced. There is nothing more that can be added or anything subtracted from it. Anybody who adds or takes away from this is a deviant.
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This always makes me laugh. You know why? Because it is your 'claim' that you are on the faith that Muhammad PBUH preached and practiced. Heck, if it was same, we wouldnt be seeing numerous sects of Islam, we wouldnt be seeing numerous tafaseer of Quran, we wouldnt be seeing scholars declaring other sects of Islam as kafirs etc. What faith do you talk about ? the faith that Muhammad PBUH said will one day go up to skies ? the faith whose scholars have been called the worst creatures under the heaven ? the faith who Muhammad PBUH foretold whose followers will be just like jews ?
Now, lets talk about what you just stated above. Nothing more can be added and nothing can be subtracted. Ok fair enough. It's easy to say this isnt it ? Since you have already decided what Islam is, anyone..even Jesus a.s will be called heretic and liar if he was to come and tell you the correct meaning of Islam. Anyone who does not come in conformity with the so called Islam of Mullahs will be called a liar. Who is saying anyone can come and 'add' or 'subtract' anything from Quran ? You must be kidding me ! People like you who have always been the rejecter of prophets.. people who have too much pride on what their forefathers have been on.
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I believe in what I have stated above and try to practice above as much as I can but I should practice more.
Muslims believe that Hz Isa Ibn Marryum (as) will add nothing or subtract anything from what Prophet Muhammad (saw) believed in or practiced.
He will correct the beliefs of wayward Muslims and bring them back to its pristine form in line with beliefs and practice of the Noble Prophet Muhammad (saw).
Trust me I am very flexible in following the correct interpretation of Quran and true meaning of Ahadith – But this has to be in line with the Belief of Prophet Muhammad (saw) and his Blessed Companions (May Allah be pleased with them all).
If I was shown that I was at fault and was not following the Quran and the Sunnah of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (saw) according to the guidelines set by the Blessed Prophet himself (saw), I’ll repent correct my beliefs and practice accordingly. I am always learning more and more and willing to do so. So much to learn and so little time!
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let alone me trusting you. You cant even trust yourself when you say that you will correct your belief where you went wrong if Jesus tells you to. Your heart has been sealed. You CANNOT CANNOT let a prophet come who will teach you correct interpretation of Quran and ahadith since you have already made your own understanding of Islam, anyone telling you anything else will be considered heretic by people like you. Think about it.
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Now can you honestly tell me have you ever wondered that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad could be a fraudster and a charlatan? Have you ever wondered why the beliefs and practices of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are so variant to that of the Blessed Prophet Muhammad?
Are you brave enough to challenge and check up beliefs of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad?
Popat just borrowed your signature - I hope you don't mind
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lol, Ibn Sadique.. seriously, is this the best you could come up with ? I will try not write too much on it.
1) >> I have no problem checking up on His beliefs. His beliefs are of Islam. Yes, he taught us all the true meaning of Quranic verses and ahadith which we differed in.. and yes, as stated above, you cannot accept that due to your pride on what you're on.
2) >> Believing on a false prophet is NOT a sin ( IF and only IF he is, nauzubillah ). Quran is full of people and nations on whom Allah sent wrath for not believing on his prophet. Can you tell me if theres any punishment from Allah for believing in a prophet who says im in complete subordinate of the prophet prior to him, and even if hes false ? what is the punishment for his followers ? increase in numbers ? Having Allah's help everywhere ? Giving victory to the followers ? the mission getting every corner of the Earth ?
3) the moment you talk about Hz Ahmad (as), you are indirectly admitting a prophet CAN come, but he is not the one. In that case, we come to the same aqeedah, only problem now is the recognition of the person.. no problem with the aqeedah then right?
as far as the signature goes.. act upon it too. See what you believe :)
