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I guess now you’ll say that Yoga, Ayurveda, ideas of space-time irrelevance (like relativity) are all found in the Puranas, so IT IS YOUR HOLY BOOK YOU HINDOO. Puranas never enjoy the status of the other 4 Holy Books, although India is now known mostly for what they have and thus indeed what Hinduism has given to the world.
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^ Sorry Buddy, I don't have the habbit of confusing too many things at the same time. I take one thing at a time.....
Right now it is hard for me to find enough time to write anything lengthy. Bear with me, I'll return soon.
BTW, the topic of this thread should be "What has Hinduism given to India" :)
By callong me Hindoo, you did my "Huthiya"
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British historian Grant Duff has remarked: "Many of the advances in the sciences that we consider today to have been made in Europe were in fact made in India centuries ago
Ancient India was a land of sages, saints and seers as well as scholars and scientists. Some examples of India’s contribution to science and technology include:
Mathematics – Vedic literature is replete with concepts of zero, the techniques of algebra and algorithm, square root and cube root. Arguably, the origins of Calculus lie in India 300 years before Leibnitz and Newton.
Astronomy – Rig Veda (2000 BC) refers to astronomy.
Physics – Concepts of atom and theory of relativity were explicitly stated by an Indian philosopher around 600 BC.
Chemistry – Principles of chemistry did not remain abstract but also found expression in distillation of perfumes, aromatic liquids, manufacturing of dyes and pigments, and extraction of sugar.
Medical science & surgery – Around 800 BC, the first compendium on medicine and surgery was complied in ancient India.
Fine Arts – study of sound and phonetics arose from the need of correct recitation of the Vedas. The natural corollary was the emergence of music and other performing arts.
Mechanical & production technology – Greek historians have testified to smelting of certain metals in India in the 4th century BC.
Civil engineering & architecture – The discovery of urban settlements of Mohenjodaro and Harappa indicates the existence of civil engineering and architecture, which blossomed to a highly precise science and found expression in innumerable monuments.
Shipbuilding & navigation – Sanskrit and Pali texts have several references to maritime activity by ancient Indians.
Sports & games – Ancient India is the birth place of chess, ludo, snakes and ladders and playing cards.
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Mathematics
Main article: Indian mathematics
Mathematics represents a very high level of abstraction attained by the human brain. In ancient India, roots to mathematics can be traced to Vedic literature, which is around 4000 years old. Between 1000 BC and 1000 AD, a number of mathematical treatises were authored in India.
American historian Will Durant (1885–1981) has said that “India was the mother of our philosophy… of much of our mathematics.” Australian Indologist A. L. Basham writes in his book, The Wonder That was India, “… the world owes most to India in the realm of mathematics, which was developed in the Gupta period to a stage more advanced than that reached by any other nation of antiquity. The success of Indian mathematics was mainly due to the fact that Indians had a clear conception of the abstract number as distinct from the numerical quantity of objects or spatial extension.”
It is now generally accepted that India was the birth place of several mathematical concepts, including zero, the decimal system, algebra, algorithm, square root and cube root. The concept of zero origininated in Indian philosophy’s concept of “sunya”, literally “void”. A symbol for zero emerged to represent this philosophical concept.
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Right now it is hard for me to find enough time to write anything lengthy. Bear with me, I'll return soon.
If you shall be posting Shankaracharya's quotations on the Manusmritis and Puranas (from Kalyan magazine), please dont bother.
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No I didnt. Re-read the post.
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Excellent post rvikz.
I think your post concludes the discussion of this thread.
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Not so quick Yudhu
This is bull crap he posted.
Where in the world such contributions are acknowledged?
Hinduism never crossed the Indian continent, how come this much was contributed to *the world :D *
rvikz post has technical difficulties, that I'll elaborate soon. Then it will be hard for you to defend him........
BTW, just google and bring out some good references that are non-Hindu and other than wikepadia, till I reply to your posts.....
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Then prove it. Quote each line and prove it wrong.
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Ever heard of Yoga or Ayurved, that are getting popular in the west from ordinary people to Hollywood starts. Ever heard of Hindustani Classical Music and Karnatak music ? It is world famous. All have their origins in the Vedas, Upanishads and Mahabharat.
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Thats the beauty of Hinduism. It didnt have to cross the subcontinent. The world came to it.
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Let me first demistify the link he has provided. the wikepedia
**WIKIPEDIA AND AUTHENTICITY **
The reason I do not use Wikipedia often as a source of information is that anyone can make entries on the site without verification. As a result, more topics are being flagged for opinion and spin being disguised as fact. A symbol consisting of a red hexagon (pictured below) and the statement "The neutrality of this article is disputed) appears on pages which appear to have a political agenda.
**I will not link to Wikipedia unless it is (a) a commonly acknowledged fact that is not in dispute by reasonable people or (b) it is something I have been able to independently verify through **
http://texasholdemblogger.blogspot.com/2005/12/wikipedia-and-authenticity.html
Preparations for Class Action Against Wikipedia **
Preparations for a class action law suit against the owners and operators of Wikipedia](http://www.wikipediaclassaction.org/) are underway.**
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/12/preparations_for_class_action.html
Wikipedia: With a Pinch of Salt? **
Head over to Locana](http://locana.blogspot.com/) and read this succinct post](Locana: Wiki -- A flawed and irresponsible research tool?) by Anand that discusses what’s increasingly becoming an issue with ****Wikipedia:](http://www.wikipedia.org/) the authenticity of its entries.** A few months ago I had posted Is the Wiki Cracking?](Ink Scrawl: Is the Wiki Cracking?) which mentioned how Wikipedia entries are easily vandalized: Following the Pope’s election in April this year, a user substituted the Pope Benedict’s photo with that of the evil emperor from the Star Wars film series.
http://inkscrawl.blogspot.com/2005/12/wikipedia-with-pinch-of-salt.html
Bicameral Authenticity System
In light of the recent controversies and the long-term need for improving the quality of Wikipedia articles, I am proposing a new bicameral rating system on Wikipedia be implemented to alert readers of flagged authenticity in an article.
http://news.com.com/5208-1038-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=12207&messageID=93537&start=-155
Yudishthir:
First prove the authenticity of the source buddy. Or bring us something credible to believe the crap rvikz posted :grumpy:
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Even then, I’ll demistify this post from wikepedia taken by rvikz.
Yudisthir, Remember, your support for this article of rvikz is gonna effect your own credibility
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Yudishthir,
Now prove it. Quote each line and prove it right.
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Okay Yudhu,
lets start one by one. And don’t confuse two topics or questions att the same time.
STARTING FROM POST 145:
The first issue was the Purans and Manusamriti. You initially posted this about the purans. Look at the blue text….
You wrote them as “COMMENTARIES” and then “RELIGIOUS NOVELS”….
So **I posted 9 websites **which declared and list the Purans among the Holy Books of Hinduism. And you only raised objection on 2 websites. One was a Christian website and second was a commercial website, despite the fact that the other 7 websites (Hindu websites) had also listed the Purans among the Most Revered Books of Hinduism…..
Okay, now, my whole point is that Purans are among the Holy Books of Hinduism (They are listed among them). And here is another Authentic Hindu website I post… and read what does it say about Purans…
The Puranas are the richest collection of mythology in the world. Most of them attained their final form around 500 A.D. but they were passed on as an oral tradition since the time of Krishna (c. 1500 B.C.).
There are eighteen major Puranas and a few minor ones. Each is a long book consisting of various stories of the Gods and Goddesses, hymns, an outline of ancient history, cosmology, rules of life, rituals, instructions on spiritual knowledge. Hence the Puranas are like encyclopedias of religion and culture and contain material of different levels and degrees of difficulty.
The most important Puranas are the VISHNU PURANA, SHIVA PURANA and MARKENDEYA PURANA (to the Goddess). The BHAGAVATA PURANA is important to the worshippers of Krishna. Other Puranas are the Vayu, Agni, Skanda, Kalki, Linga.
The Puranas are perhaps the most important or commonly used scriptural texts of the Hindus. They were guide books for the whole of life and society.
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I think you are Sita Agrawal's husband, and a trustee member of dalitstan.org.
Why dont you change your username to Lahori_Agrawal_420 ? Either you're lying or those expat Hindus dont know anything. Likewise there are so many muslims here, who dont know the history of prophet Mohammad or even heard of Hadith.
Mr. Lahori, millions of Hindu school students in India are taught daily in their schools, by their History text-books, that the ManuSmriti was publicly burnt by Dr. Ambedkar, because it was a racist and casteist book.
Millions of us are taught in our schools that books like the ManuSmriti have no place in Hinduism and that is why it was burnt by Dr. Ambedkar (a dalit convert to Buddhism).
Happy now ?
If you are indeed happy by this reply, then you should now know that the laws of Arabia dont apply here.
Toh maamu when did I say English or Zulu is a language of Arabia ?
This is all personal attacks. Nothing more. So I just let it go.
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Yudhu,
I'll go to the next point once you say something about my post about Purans.
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Not me, but the 2 renowned experts on Hinduism from About.com did.
Points 2 and 3 were theirs. I hope you clicked on the link I gave.
And I quoted 2 experts from a very popular website in response to that.
Not 2 but rather all of them. I gave you an example of JUSt 2 of your sites.
Forget your sites, scores of TV serials on the stories from the Puranas have been made on mythological characters that I have not even heard of.
Now I guess hindunet.org hasnt caught up with the times…
The Puranas are novels, who expand on the stories of the 4 Holy Books.
But no doubt, they have relativistic ideas such as irrelevance of space-time, accurate methods on astronomy, Yog, Ayurved, math etc., and for this we cannot ignore them, but for some of their contradictions and absurdities which we have to filter.
You yourself quoted a site saying that Puranas have lower authority than the Vedas.
So now you know.
As though you are the purest and havent used personal attacks before.
Just scroll up to your glorious previous posts and see.
By the way, this was not a personal attack :
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I once again remind you that you excluded Purans from the list of Hindu holy Books. I am arguing with you that I have seen at many websites them being regarded as among the Holy Books of Hinduism.
Read the above clolored text (In red). You present it as but the issue is not the “relative authority” of Purans.
This issue is them being regarded among the Holy Books, doesn’t matter where do they stand “relatively”. That relativity is not my point. 
You always confuse different things in a funny way …
So, we have an agreement here that Purans are among the Holy Books of Hinduism… Right!!!
Arey mamoo ab maan jao na. Abhi to bohat kuch para hai baat karney ko aur tum aik hi jagha par arey huey ho 
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[QUOTE] This issue is them being regarded among the Holy Books, doesn't matter where do they stand "relatively". That relativity is not my point.
Lahori, have you ever heard of the Theory of Relativity whose cornerstone is that space and time are not absolute ? I was reffering to those ideas expressed in the Puranas.
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Answer one question :
Have you produced ONE scholar ? No.
I have produced 2 scholars .
Another one :
Have you bothered to click on the about.com link I gave you ? (I dont think so).
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No. You havent produced even ONE Hindu scholar, and probably never bothered to click on the about.com link.
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Arey Lahori, do you equate all Hadiths with the Koran ? No you dont.
Similarly, you cannot equate the Puranas with the Vedas, although Puranas too have some reverence just like the Hadiths have some reverence, but Koran is the Big Boss.
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Listen Yudhu, 
I have a straight statement. Don’t make it confused.
Purans stand as Holy Books of Hinduism. Period. Where do they stand relative to Vedas, that is not my point at this moment (when time will come, I’ll come to that point too)
Anology between Quran Hadith and Veda/Puran is a good one but on factual basis it is wrong. I make this statement as I know Quran and Hadith’s status relative to each other and to anything other than these.
We never write Hadith as “Written by some fanatic”. We never exclude Hadith from among “the revered books of Islam”. We consider Hadith very highly, almost second to Quran. Hadith make up as a key to Quran. Thats how Quran and Hadith are linked together.
Based on this, even if I consider your anology, than again I have to claim, Purans are Holy Books of Hinduism from where you derive inspiration and guidance.
Look before you make an anology. You are again falling in your own trap.
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So Mr. Phd In hindu puranas.. sarva sri lahori swamikal,:D
Do u think hindus are like muslims following something which is written centuries ago and not using their head and still stuck up in the century old tredition and following one book. If that was the case hinduism would not have survived so long my little swamy.
Lahori.. u only give us a hand waving arguments and u look at hinduism with a monolithic muslim mindset. Get over it dear.. u cannot answer any of yudhis questions.. there is no authensity for ur arguments.
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Not worth replying but worth noting for later use :D
authensity: Check the spellings
What questions did he ask so far? Can you bring them out for me bud?
Oh may be these ones. Well, he is asking questions and then giving the answers himself. Have a look
Have you produced ONE scholar ? No. I have produced 2 scholars .
Another one : Have you bothered to click on the about.com link I gave you ? (I dont think so).
No. You havent produced even ONE Hindu scholar, and probably never bothered to click on the about.com link.
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As I promised, for rvikz post, wikepaedia has been used as a reference.
I first ask him to prove the credibility of this wikepedia which any one can edit at anytime.
I have alread posted links and doubts about the authenticity.
Which ones? Why they did not enlighten the world or even india? Please elaborate......
Now Hindoos are in dire efforts to re-write history and prove that it was India that enlightened the whole world, but sadly, it remained in dark ages till the most recent times we know, till 1800s.... amazing....
Hum, lets see
First of all. No sound reference has been given. No example has been given. No name has been mentioned. What kind of claim is this?
Secondly, it says, "Replete with the concepts". That does not mean Hindooism created Zero. Does it? And even if it did, look at the words, "The concept of zero", so where are the other numbers? Concept means just an idea, not more than that.....
Thirdly, Isaac Newton's time was from 1643-1727. Lets go back 300 years. That would be 1363, Right!!! So what contribution did Hindoo scientistis made since then and during these almost eight centuries? I remember Roman, greek and Ottoman Empires during that time. I remember Ottoman Empire's scientific advances, nothing else. The world of Ottoman Empire was so advanced at that time. What claims do the Hindoos produce of all this?
Baghdaad (TILL 1258) was a center of the world's most advanced scientific learning. The universities of Baghdaad, Cordoba (going back to ninth and eighth centuries) where all of the Europes came for higher education, Can Hindoos produce a claim like that about India?
Which universities India had during that time? All was done by Muslims and then British. Now they are crying like babies for their share.
Why India did not had any scientific improvements till the arrival of Muslims and during the British time?
Give me one single scientific technology Hindoos produced despite the "existance of concepts of zeros". Just a single example of that?
This shows the plain false and empty statement from wikepedia.....
may be.... I know there is lot of supersition rampant among Hindoos correct, I can tae that...
By whom? Where, which city, state, reighn? What is the reference?
Examples? Who? Where? What? Reference?
All I know is Ayurveda and the advances in chemistry regarding cow urine and dung its analysis..... And the medicines developed from it...
Then why India remained in dark for so long? What kind of chronologically incorrect statement is this?
I can buy that with a little support as I know Hindooism is all about "music" and "dance". And even the worship is done by singing and dancing...... Big bollywood, is a great example I have to support it...... Out of vedas, One is all about Music and "raags"
That was even at that time, so advanced in Roman Empire and other ancient civilisations. What is the specific example the author is giving here?
These cities are in Pakistan. Aren't they? Yes, I have seen the building style and everything but what was the exact contribution? I didn't understand what was the "contibution". That was just building style of an ancient civilisation. Nobody was known as a Hindoo at that time?
It is imperative that people might have had small boats. But to say "navigatioonal system" you have to produce references and stronger arguments buddy. I can say from mysdie that Muslims went to moon in ancient time.... I can make thousands of such claims myself......
I can buy that. But isn't it like an essay of the depiction of life in Indus river velly than an explaination and elaboration of advances in science and technology?