What does death of OBL means for Pakistan?

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Zardari is busy with Qatil League affairs and Gailai is as usual un-informed.

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:konfused:

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Totay hooay dilon say aisi hi aawazai aati hain.

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LOL....sardurmunafqeen!!! and zia though he was Umm al momineen....

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yes that was my immediate reaction too… :slight_smile:

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I was thinking about my rather confused countrymen….Ahh poor Pakistanis....they woke up Monday morning and were getting ready to eat their qulchas, nihariees and tea when a bomb exploded on their heads…osama bin laden has been killed 5 minutes from Pakistan Military academy in Abbottabad!!!…for 10 years poor Pakistanis were listening to their top military leadership, ISI directors and stupid politicians that Osama is either dead or hanging out somewhere in Afghanistan but TRUST US, HE IS NOT IN PAKISTAN …..and guess what, where was he hiding…right in the middle of the country…and then, for next 24 hours, no one from the government, army, ISI bothered addressing the poor nation…It is a total mental chaos…we dont even have reliable conspiracy theories...at least not for now...

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well i personally think this was incompetence of our forces, maybe they didnt know he was there or maybe he was moving between that place or some where else, but the bad news is that he was eventually killed in Pakistan. After this failure the second alarming thing is that the helicopter travelled through a long distance and our forces couldnt locate it or stop it for carrying out that assault. In both counts its a failure.

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What it means for Pakistan?
I hope this means Pakistanis will stop their in-fighting and blind support of dynasties and ethnic parties and nuts like JI etc. That they would really start holding their institutions and representatives reliable.

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Damage control by President Asif Ali Zardari… i think it’s too late ..but nevertheless a good move.

Pakistan did its part
By Asif Ali Zardari, Published: May 2
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/pakistan-did-its-part/2011/05/02/AFHxmybF_story.html

Pakistan, perhaps the world’s greatest victim of terrorism, joins the other targets of al-Qaeda — the people of the United States, Britain, Spain, Indonesia, Afghanistan, Turkey, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Algeria — in our satisfaction that the source of the greatest evil of the new millennium has been silenced, and his victims given justice. He was not anywhere we had anticipated he would be, but now he is gone.

Although the events of Sunday were not a joint operation, a decade of cooperation and partnership between the United States and Pakistan led up to the elimination of Osama bin Laden as a continuing threat to the civilized world. And we in Pakistan take some satisfaction that our early assistance in identifying an al-Qaeda courier ultimately led to this day.

Let us be frank. Pakistan has paid an enormous price for its stand against terrorism. More of our soldiers have died than all of NATO’s casualties combined. Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost. And for me, justice against bin Laden was not just political; it was also personal, as the terrorists murdered our greatest leader, the mother of my children. Twice he tried to assassinate my wife. In 1989 he poured $50 million into a no-confidence vote to topple her first government. She said that she was bin Laden’s worst nightmare — a democratically elected, progressive, moderate, pluralistic female leader. She was right, and she paid for it with her life.

Some in the U.S. press have suggested that Pakistan lacked vitality in its pursuit of terrorism, or worse yet that we were disingenuous and actually protected the terrorists we claimed to be pursuing. Such baseless speculation may make exciting cable news, but it doesn’t reflect fact. Pakistan had as much reason to despise al-Qaeda as any nation. The war on terrorism is as much Pakistan’s war as as it is America’s. And though it may have started with bin Laden, the forces of modernity and moderation remain under serious threat.

My government endorses the words of President Obama and appreciates the credit he gave us Sunday night for the successful operation in Khyber Pakhtunkhawa. We also applaud and endorse the words of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that we must “press forward, bolstering our partnerships, strengthening our networks, investing in a positive vision of peace and progress, and relentlessly pursuing the murderers who target innocent people.” We have not yet won this war, but we now clearly can see the beginning of the end, and the kind of South and Central Asia that lies in our future.

Only hours after bin Laden’s death, the Taliban reacted by blaming the government of Pakistan and calling for retribution against its leaders, and specifically against me as the nation’s president. We will not be intimidated. Pakistan has never been and never will be the hotbed of fanaticism that is often described by the media.

Radical religious parties have never received more than 11 percent of the vote. Recent polls showed that 85 percent of our people are strongly opposed to al-Qaeda. In 2009, when the Taliban briefly took over the Swat Valley, it demonstrated to the people of Pakistan what our future would look like under its rule — repressive politics, religious fanaticism, bigotry and discrimination against girls and women, closing of schools and burning of books. Those few months did more to unite the people of Pakistan around our moderate vision of the future than anything else possibly could.

A freely elected democratic government, with the support and mandate of the people, working with democracies all over the world, is determined to build a viable, economic prosperous Pakistan that is a model to the entire Islamic world on what can be accomplished in giving hope to our people and opportunity to our children. We can become everything that al-Qaeda and the Taliban most fear — a vision of a modern Islamic future. Our people, our government, our military, our intelligence agencies are very much united. Some abroad insist that this is not the case, but they are wrong. Pakistanis are united.

Together, our nations have suffered and sacrificed. We have fought bravely and with passion and commitment. Ultimately we will prevail. For, in the words of my martyred wife Benazir Bhutto, “truth, justice and the forces of history are on our side.”

The writer is the president of Pakistan.

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^^^ At least he is trying but I doubt if anyone believes us anymore.

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Why they don't speak truth.
Don't ask from civilians ,they are never allowed to interfere.

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How will it be “Pakistan” then? :hmmm:

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Imran raising valid questions. The civilian + military leadership must come clean on what happened

Does it mean even more suffering for the people of Pakistan with the US now pushing Pakistan to send it’s troops into Northern Waziristan and resultant increase in suicide attacks?

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Hussain Haqqani on damage control, where is our civilian or military leadership.. don’t they have balls to shut the mouth of the world. Good rebuttal by President Zardari & now Hussain Haqqani :k:

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Imran Khan is worthless chap who is just dancing on the tunes of Military. Neither he shows any leadership role and neither he is able to fill the vacuum in countless years. Speaking with an accent, and sleeping on the road doesn't make you a leader. If people of Pakistan are not coming out under his banner and stints like speeches/marches against corruption, justice & now drone attacks, then their is some serious thought gap between his followers and non followers.

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^ totally irrelevant and off topic post. You are saying as if other politicians are saints themselves

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Nope i am saying he is not a leader and neither he can't become. Leaders are born not made. I don't know how many opportunities a person needs to become someone. Imran Khan just can't able to captalize on anything in last 20 years, the yesterday episode of US raid is just one of hundreds.

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If "civilians" are so help-less then why can't they stand-up for their rights? Oh wait, they don't want to risk their chairs, their monthly deposits in millions, they can't lose comfy life in President house or Prime Minister house.

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What opportunities? Are you talking about getting on Mushy bandwagon? BTW PTI didn’t come into life 20 years ago :chai:

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yawn