Someone has done a GOOOD job on you all. i pity you guys. I do not hate you i empathise with u.
*"He who worships Muhammad should be informed that Muhammad has died. He who worships Allah should know that Allah is ever-living and does not die." *
Abu Bakr then recited the following verse:
"Muhammad is no more than a Prophet: **many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or was slain, will ye then turn back your heels?"
????????????what?
...did not make any sense to me.....
Nobody has done any job on us. We take and talk to our opponents based on Qur'an and hadith. It's Allah's mercy on us who made us understand the real Islam. Alhumdulillah
So, in your case, if you say it says "many" and not "all", do you believe Elijah (Iliyaas) AS is to appear too? Do u not believe the prophecy of Elijah AS coming back was fulfilled on John the Baptist? I am not here to argue over what the hadith said but even if i start taking your translation of it.. it wouldnt make your argument stronger even for a moment. Prophets are said to be alive in their graves anyway. No way in heaven anyone is coming bodily from anywhere.
What do u not understand in it?.. Allah says he is everywhere. What was the need of Him to send Isa AS to 4th heaven? oh and speaking of 4th heaven, I'd really like to see KSA government or Pakistani govt sending a shuttle in space in search of Isa AS, now that will be worth finding the truth.
Prophet Mohammad was UMI that is why Quran is called to be his miracle . so that kuffar wud not be able to claim that he wrote quran himself. Allah is the best planner.
absolutely agreed. My whole point of saying that was that except for Him SAW, we know other prophets was able to read and write. I am not denying anything. As i said, i find Him being an UMI as a supreme sign of His truthfulness. It was just that some people are too naive that if they cant any flaw , they start attacking directly to the leader of jamaat e ahmadiyya.
well your claim of being 200 million(??) in number or being in 172 countries means NOTHING> look how many christians are there in world. they are mushrikeen calling Isa p.b.u.h. the Son of God. they have not fallen off the face of earth!!
look how many Gays are there have they been struck with Allah's wrath?? no
this is called DHEEL DAINA( to give rope to someone so eventualy they will hang themselves)
your no or popularity means Nothing.
True. You see we agree a lot with each other. And the fact is our faith is exactly the same, bit by bit. The only problem is the recognition of the person. We believe He AS has come, while you people are still waiting. Faith of us both is absolutely same. The only thing that means when i speak of 200million and 172 countries is the fact that more and more people are finding the true Islam. Whether all ahmadi muslims are better than majority of other muslim is a wrong assumption. I myself dont read Namaaz sometimes. May Allah make me pray, but all im saying is to judge our beliefs based on what its preaching, forget about if you happen to come around an ahmadi who is not a good muslim.. it will only mean he is not a good muslim, thats all. You will never be able to find any flaw or anything that goes against the teaching of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and Allah in the teaching of ahmadiyyat itself.
LIKE I POSTED BEFORE
Sayyidna Isa (alayh issalam) will not come into the world at that time designated as Prophet, but he would come to lead the Muslim community as the Khalifa (viceregent) of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasallam),** the personal station of prophethood that he has will not be taken from him**. Instead, he would be like the governor of a province or state who continues to hold that position even if he has gone out to visit some other province or state for some reason. Therefore, even though he is not as a governor in that province, the office of the governorship has not been ipso facto taken away from him.
You guys forget that Allahs Prophets All BROUGHT THE RELIGION OF ISLAM. Chritianity and judaism were the names given by people. Isa brought Islam. Moses Brought Islam. Ibrahim brought islam. those who will be given hidaya( guidance by Allah) christians or jews or those who call themselves muslims will accept Islam. ALL will be Muslims. Inshallah.
You see this is where we differ. And it is perfectly alright to take the coming of Messiah however we like. Same is the right given to you too by Allah Himself, when he says to you your religion and to me mine. Why do we really fight for then? You guys no matter how hard you try will not be able to change our hearts and doesnt matter how ever many kalima taiyyaba you remove from our mosque, you will never be able to cut our hearts and remove the kalima taiyyaba from our hearts.. Our faith is the same and that is someone will come in the latter days to revive the true teachings of Islam. Is that not so?. If it is, then what if we believed a person who claimed to be the one prophesised ? what big sin have we commited? Our intentions are right and the only reason i tell you that we believed in that person is so we can have our Imaan more strengthened towards Islam and have more love for our beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Accepting an Imam Mehdi AS is like giving more respect to beloved prophet Muhammad PBUH because He himself said that if u find Him in your time, convey my salam to him.
Allah says "Those who dispute concerning the Signs of Allah without any authority having come to them. Grievously hateful is this in the sight of Allah and in the sight of those who believe. Thus does Allah seal up the heart of everyone (who is) arrogant, haughty". Signs of Allah were open for everyone to see when lunar and solar eclipse took place. Signs of Allah were open for everyone when He AS claimed to be Imam Mehdi and got reveletion saying " I shall cause they message to reach the corners of the earth". We saw that happening when our leaders opened the door to go to the corners of Earth after declaring us non-muslims. Indeed, there are signs for people who use their intellect.
Coming back to what you said, Indeed every single prophet brought Islam. But it is also true that whichever prophet came, they approved the prophet prior to Him. Jesus AS approved to His people that Moses AS was a prophet of Allah. Muhammad SAW approved Jesus AS to be prophet of Allah. If everyone had brought Islam, what then was the need of Allah to give heavenly books to the prophets He chose? why not allowed them to add or subtract the context from the book which was given to prophet before him? Why was the need of Bible when Jesus AS could have easily added or subtracted things within torah? You will say because they were changed. True. They were changed. Anyhow, Quran is the only book which is to be the final word of Allah till qiyamah and prophets will continue to come but the condition is that If Muslim Ummah is in need of it, and when mosques will be many but people in there will be very few. Only condition is , the prophet needs to be amongst the ummah of Muhammad SAW. Any other prophet after Him SAW claiming to bring a total new shariyat is surely a liar and a deceiver.
When Isa AS will return He AS will have to accept Muhammad PBUH FIRST IN ORDER TO PREACH TO THE WORLD TOWARDS ISLAM. that was the whole point of it. He AS is still a munkir of Muhammad SAW until He AS make His return. Naozubillah, this doesnt make sense to me because I consider him a prophet of Allah and that I believe Muhammad SAW to be the khatam an nabiyeen, the best amongst the prophets and the most exhalted one. How is it possible that Isa AS has refused Muhammad PBUH for more than 2000 years?