This is a serious question as some other threads have been discussing Ahmadi beliefs.
My desire is to understand the actual beliefs of Ahmadis and how they differ from general Muslim population.
Please do not use this thread as a source of attack but feel free to question answers if you dont understand them.
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Hey i was just thinkin abt starting a thread like this. lol, thanks.
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For ur own knowledge sake please use GS search function and Google or simply go to Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website
in the Past Ahmadi’s threads have been used a platform to bash certain persons and beliefs … i leave it to u to judge on what u find here on GS and what u find through google and alsilam.org
further u can use youtube where prominent Pakistanis from different walk of life have offered their bit about Ahmadis mostly on Pakistani channels such as ARY Digital, Geo TV, AAJ TV, 1 News etc. etc.
That’s my honest suggestion to u. Being an Ahmadi i can tell that ur purpose may well be a noble one as u enquire knowledge but knowing this place and PPL who r frequently here u’ll end up searching for knowledge through the rubble of this thread u started for a certain cause only it to be misused by others
May ALLAH SWT guide u. Ameen
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I second what Zero_one has said. If you are honest about your queries and genuinely want to learn about Ahmadi beliefs then the best way to do so is to visit the official website. Zero_one has already posted a link to it.
On the main page of that website, you'll see the articles of faith and the five pillars of islam listed. They are the same as other muslims. The main difference is in regards to the second coming of Jesus. Ahmadis believe that he has died and thus can't come back into this world. Hence, the Jesus prophecised in Hadith is going to be someone from the Ummah of the Holy Prophet (saw). Non-Ahmadi muslims believe that he lives in the heavens and will descend at a latter time.
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OK, I checked out the website and my understanding is that the only difference between the belief of an Ahmadi and mainstream Muslims is the belief of the Messiah. Ahmadis believe that Mirza Gulam Ahmed in not the last prophet but the Messiah prophesied by Quran and Prophet Muhammad to return to save mankind. The rest of the difference seem to stem from which version of the Messiah you believe. i.e. if you do not believe Mirza Ahmed to be the Messiah, you cannot be a Muslim and therefore not entitled to rights or rituals as one.
Am I correct in this analysis?
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Lets see how long it takes before this thread becomes a home more anti-ahmadi remarks.
Wildhycon, I'm glad that you took the initiative to learn by actually visiting the official website. One should go directly to an authentic source. If I'm to ask Christians about their beliefs, information will vary...facts become opinions and next thing you know, information becomes distorted.
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lets see how many hits this topic gona get
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Not being anti ahmadi just asking a question.
the site zero posted said that he had some teacher gul ali shah teaching him when he was 17 ? a common man teaching a prophet, doesnt sound appealing!
Al Islam -Book: Ahmad the Guided One
can u guys please define a prophet ?
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OK, I checked out the website and my understanding is that the only difference between the belief of an Ahmadi and mainstream Muslims is the belief of the Messiah. Ahmadis believe that Mirza Gulam Ahmed in not the last prophet but the Messiah prophesied by Quran and Prophet Muhammad to return to save mankind. The rest of the difference seem to stem from which version of the Messiah you believe. i.e. if you do not believe Mirza Ahmed to be the Messiah, you cannot be a Muslim and therefore not entitled to rights or rituals as one.
Am I correct in this analysis?
Corrections. Coming last does not confer any special status to anyone. Khaatamun Nabiyyeen means "seal of Prophets". Islam is the best faith and Holy Prophet (saw) is the best, the most exalted and final "law bearing" messenger and prophet. Hazrat Mirza sahib is a "non law bearing" prophet who is prophecised as Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi.
Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (pbuh) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (pbuh). He will descend (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizya. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
Secondly, those who do not believe in Mirza Sahib's claims are not "non muslims". They chose to reject a messenger of Allah and a Khalifa of Holy Prophet (saw), hence their faith is not complete. That does not mean that they are not muslims. Belief in Quran and Holy Prophet (saw) makes a muslim. Belief in Promised Messiah (as) makes a complete muslim.
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Sunan Abu Dawud Book 37, Number 4310:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet (pbuh) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (pbuh). He will descend (to the earth). When you see him, recognize him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizya. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.
Why did MGA changed his statements. People are still confused if he claimed to be jessus, Imam Mehdi, or Massih maood....very confusing.
The hadith says that he will fight the people for the cause of Islam, while MGA prohibited "Jihad" of fighting with people.
Where did he broke the cross ? did he killed swine. After his arrival Allah (Swt) didn't perish all religions except Islam (as predicted in the hadith)
When did he destroy the anti christ ?
He didn't live on earth for 40 years (as predicted in the hadith) ?
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^ Peace Crime Master GOGO
He sure did not descend to earth either and he did not have reddish hair either.
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Ask Qadiyanis why Mirza was not buried where he died (I hope you all know where he died lol)?
If he was a true prophet of God he would have been buried where he died, because according to hadith narrated by Hazrat Abu Bakr رضى الله عنه all prophets are buried where they die. This is why Nabi Paak صلى الله عليه وسلم grave is actually in the place which used to be the bedroom of Hazrat Umm-ul-Mu'mineen رضى الله عنها the place where he صلى الله عليه وسلم passed away.
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The Al Islam web-site of the Qadiani Ahmadi jamaat is cleverly constructed to entice people. For example, look at the translation of the verse quoted on the Home page. It does NOT say Muhammad is the LAST prophet but that he is the SEAL of the prophets. They believe that seal will be used to make new prophets but that there has only been one and that is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib.
The Ahmadi jamaat is split into two; the Lahoris and the Qadianis. To find the differences go to the Al website and search for the book Truth About the Split and then go to Part One where the main text starts and you will find that the Qadiani Khalifa Mian Bashir-ud-Din clearly says:
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib was a prophet and that
All those who deny this prophethood are heretics and outside the pale of Islam, even if they recite the kalima.
Ask yourselves why are these beliefs not mentioned on the Home page but hidden away? Ask a Qadiani if he will pray behind even a Lahori Ahmadi imam and the answer will be NO. Ask a Qadiani if their jamaat said the funeral prayers for Qaid-i-Azam and the answer will be NO. Shall I go on?
The Lahori Ahmadis believe that Mirza sahib was only a reformer and all those who recite the kamlima are Muslims.
Search for Ahmadiyya Anjuman Ishaat Islam and you will find our web-sites. I am sorry this system does not allow me to give URLs.
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The Lahore group's main website is w w w dot aaiil dot com
They have some good articles refuting Qadiyani group's beliefs and exposing their corruption. For example, Mirza Basheeruddeen Mahmood Ahmad, the second leader of the Qadiyani group, was accused by some members of his own Jamaa'at of having molested little boys.
This is the case with all manmade cults, they are full of corruption. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc., all these modern cults are known to be extremely corrupt, and Qadiyanis are definitely no exception.
Although the Lahore group is less extreme than the Qadiyani group, still both of them are non-Muslim because both of them believe in Mirza Qadiyani who pretended to be a prophet and messiah, and both believe that Hazrat Eesa عليه السلام is dead. According to 2nd Amendment of the 1973 Constitution of Pakistan, both Qadiyanis and Lahore group are non-Islamic religion.
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rest of my answer can be found on
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/religion-scripture/317749-true-mehdi.html
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The Lahore group's main website is w w w dot aaiil dot com
They have some good articles refuting Qadiyani group's beliefs and exposing their corruption. For example, Mirza Basheeruddeen Mahmood Ahmad, the second leader of the Qadiyani group, was accused by some members of his own Jamaa'at of having molested little boys.
This is the case with all manmade cults, they are full of corruption. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc., all these modern cults are known to be extremely corrupt, and Qadiyanis are definitely no exception.
Although the Lahore group is less extreme than the Qadiyani group, still both of them are non-Muslim because both of them believe in Mirza Qadiyani who pretended to be a prophet and messiah, and both believe that Hazrat Eesa عليه السلام is dead. According to 2nd Amendment of the 1973 Constitution of Pakistan, both Qadiyanis and Lahore group are non-Islamic religion.
i thought u wud stick with Quran... do u actually expect someone to be convinced by this post of urz ? it does show ur hate not ur knowledge.
U do demand everything from Quran when u want an answer. but y dont u try to bring a ayyat from Quran saying ahmadi's r kafir ?
double standards ?
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You want to know our fundamental belief? Watch following videos.
I hope this discussion opens your eyes and eliminates your confusion about Ahmadiyyat. Jazakallah!..
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^^ jazakallah
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in my belief ahmadeis are not muslims
if u r muslims stick to what the QURAN and AHADEES say
and the QURAN says prophet MOHAMMAD SAW is the last messenger
end of discussion