Were Ram and Krishna mentioned in Quran as prophets?

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^ so its more of a "cult" rather than a religion - since according to you - anything can be changed/edited/cut out/ and added.

PS: you didnt answer my previous question...

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You are not giving me the answer :how do hindus worship?
Salaat(prayers) are an obligation on every men and women...we ask Allah for showing us the straight path,"the way of those on whom you(Allah) bestowed your grace ,not of those who earned your anger,nor of those who went astray."We also ask for His(Allah) mercy in the hereafter.
I still don't know the way Hindus worship the God.
We go to mosque and offer pray whether our child is healthy or sick.And sickness and diseases are test or punishment from Allah.Also health and riches can be a test from God.
We should do shukar(thanks) in Happiness and health and we should do (sabar) patiance in sickness or grief.
In the holy Qur'an it says"seek help in patiance and As-Salat(prayer).Truely it is extremely heavy and hard except for al-khashiun(those who obey Allah with full submission and fear much from His punishment(hell fire))
chapter 2 ayah45
This forum is about exchanging our views.......you have'nt mention your believes about God.We are'nt saying your God is wrong.

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Anyhow, a simple reply to your so called "effective" reply to Muslims is
This is NOT and I repeate NOT Symbolism.....
We do not worship Kaabah like you worship your hand made gods.
We do not consider God lives in that small cubical building.
Kaabah is just a place, a direction where ALL Muslims direct their prayers. This signifies "uniformity", "Union". Thats all.

We do not say, "O Kaabha give me money, or O Kaabah give me wisdom" like you guys ask from your hand made gODDESSES, "O Lakshmai give me wealth, or O Saraswati give me wisdom".....

Please note, I have not used any word like "Worship" for Kaabah....

Before Kaabah, Aqsa Mosque was the place toward which Muslims directed their prayers. That doesn't mean we worshiped a Mosque? And besides, Allah Himself ordered the direction to be changed towards Kaabah and this is written in Quran.

I hope you got the answer. It is not worship, it is not symbolisation

In case of Satans, I did not get your meaning. Elaborate a bit.

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to singhs
you said you go to temple and ask for the material and spritual things in front of a deity."In front of a Deity"
Is'nt that Idol worshipping or shall I explain again about the Idolatry...............
the second way"Yoga" is not in your scripture .........am i right?
so you are making your own way of worshipping..........which is also form of idolatry.............

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pakistanis dont pray for good education and wisdom?

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jazak Allah brother.........lahore for posting that.
i think we should'nt expect any answers from our hindu brothers.

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ssingh,

Firstly, let me admit you have mental stability. I don't find anything offensive or arrogant in your posts and in fact like getting into discussions with you and Yudishthir.....

Secondly, your summary about what I am saying is wrong.
We are just talking about what seems "not reasonable" in worshipping any selfperceived form of God.

Thirdly, we are pointing out the confusion and amalgamation in the ways you guys are writting. All we expect is an explaination of how it is acceptable to worship a demigod.

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i told you
dont expect any reasonable answers even answers from them

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"in front of a deity"....yes, it is idol worshipping. When did I say it is not. If i said it, i will rectify it.

"Yoga" is not mentioned in scriptures.....I dont know. I have read only Bhagavad geetha. But now dont get into arguments like hindus have nothing to contribute for it. Infact, in yoga, one word that is uttered or stressed is "om", which usually hindus associate themselves with. Eventhough, hindus claim it is a universal word or whatever. But again dont blame hindus for that.

The place where I come from is called mysore. There is a famous "ashtanga yoga" teacher called Patthabhi Jois. He was and is a teacher of madonna. I see many foreigners coming to his center for yoga training.

"It seems "not reasonable" in worshipping any self perceived form of god". I see it as a very strong point. If possible i will change myself, the moment i start accepting that.

You said confusion and amalgamation in the ways we write. You yourself 'attempted' to define hinduism once....I know it's history somewhat. So, I will not be surprised if hindus are confused. It has inculcated every possible explanation that is there in spritual world or may be even science. While doing so it had simply defied itself. So hindus are obviously confused. and But it again defied itself "only to make an 'attempt' to explain the laws of spiritual world". By spiritual world i mean 'it will also include 'something beyond god also' .....this statement will itself ramble everybody. Besides 'who are hindus?'.....is it a religion?...But now it has become a religion, though. For me it's very precious philosophy. Nothing more, nothing less.

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let me theorize

religions r like classic art,there r rules n regulations which we have to follow.an established set of regulations and all.

hinduism doesnt fall in that category,its more of a philosophy,abstract art,a plain canvas denotes hinduism adequately and a canvas full of polka dots will do the same thing.

hinduism revolves a lot around meditation,a trial and error method of finding nirvan-the ultomate.

other religions give u a set of rules to follow,no trial n error in that.do this ,dont do that.

hinduism is open to interpretation.

vedas say:aikam barham do sutyah nastay nahy na nastay kanchan
translation: there is one god,no other,none,none ,not even a little bit.
same as the first kalimah.

yijar veda 3:32
he has no image picture or idol.

rig veda 16:45-6
he is one

yajur ved 9:40
those who worship false gods they sink in the darkness of ignornace

rig veda 1:121-10
he is the only sole master of all creations,he is the king of heavens and the earths.

so many of vedas say the same things as the quran.

wonder why this fact is hidden from the hindu public?

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i wud like to add that NOW its becomming a philosophy again.

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I am glad singhs.........that you have the abilty to search for truth.I recommend you to read Qur'an's translation in any language you understand better..........

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we can only agree on laws of physics not on beliefs since word "belief" itself
means doubtful you cant manfacture aircraft on "beliefs" only by laws of physics.

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I too recommend that you read geetha and vedas. Thereby trying to know how hinduism has evolved?...or rather people in ancient india were. thereby trying to get answers for the very meaning of life.

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actually we do have bhagvad geeta in our house.........my husband reads it:)
thanks for recommending it anyway

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any good translation site for Vedas?

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No...i dont know. But you can get it from some one else.

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someday i will definitely make an attempt to read quran....thanks for recommending. I am serious about what i said.

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Becaue Hinduism reached there far earlier than Islam did. There are still Ram Leela plays in Indonesia, and Indonesian names are quite Sanskritised.
SukarnoPutri means Daughter of Sukarno.

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2)ayodhya is made of a + yudh
a means ''not allowed''
yudh means ''war''
ayodyah=where war is not allowed.

in arabic the equivalent is dar us salam or bait ul haram

now whoosh,using imagination [or delusions] ram was born in mekka.
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Now whoosh, using imagination, maybe the Koranic Mecca is actually Ayodhya.

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3)sanskrit dictionary says seeta means ''personal propert of of the prince''
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Absolutely wrong.

SITA means "furrow" in Sanskrit. Sita is the name of the Hindu goddess of the harvest.

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again the first building ever on earth the kabaa.
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No. There are countless buildings in India before that.

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4)ramayan is made up of ram and ayan
ram is ram
ayan=home
ramayan=home of ram
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Completely wrong again.

The Ramayana (Sanskrit: march or journey (ayana) of Rama)

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geeta=vedas's summary
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No. It was the revelation of of ParaBrahma. Vedas are different.

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6)vedas say kirshan is also known as ''mohan madan''
now add moh+mad ignoring an in both we get mohmad.[go check if u have the resources,time and patience and open mindedness]

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Not Mohan Madan, but Madan Mohan. I know a gentleman by that name, and here you dont interchange compound words.

But hey, you'll make a good conspiracy theorist.

8)krishna accused of stealing butter ''makhan chor''

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sanskrit makh means mecca
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Nonsense !! Makhan means Butter.

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chor means ''one who has relations with mecca in secret''

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Chor means thief not only in India, but Pakistan also.

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9)kirshin also known as gopaal and i can explain that too but i wont.
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Gopal means Cow-Heard.

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10)too bad the hindus lost their prophets by creating legends.too bad hindus were kept separate from the holy books.too bad u like to find faults with islam as if ur perfect.

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KARAKUSH, although you arguments are all wrong left, right and center,........you just proved Mohammad was infact Krishna.

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i think vedas are older than Qur'an so krishna can't be Muhammad pbuh...........