Re: Were Ram and Krishna mentioned in Quran as prophets?
Again bhaiyon, the news is opinion of some Muslim Schloars, can people comment on those only rather than turning this into another generic thread of hindu and India bashing..... :-)
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yep, otherwise strictly speaking, Quran and Hadith make no specific mention of ram or other hindu dieties whatsoever....
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To singhs
So that is cleared that you believe in "gods" and you don't believe in "one God"..........
You also believe that god can come in a human face.
We as Muslims believe that God is not like us and he doe'snt come in human form.Anyway Its our belief.
I would be glad to know the method of Hindu worshipping.
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Yes....god can come in human form, afterall this is his creation. If he comes, nobody can question him. It is his will and wish.
By the way where did i say that i believe in "gods"(plural of god). I said that in one yuga it was ram, in other yuga it was krishna and in this yuga it is kalki. He is the same in every yuga. But names are different.
Besides, this is my opinion. I dont think, i said anything that is controversial to the philosophy of hinduism.
If i am wrong, let "time or destiny or god" guide me to the right path.
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you did'nt mention the way you worship..........
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**@ ssingh
**u seem to be a mentally stable n tolerant fellow.i like ur disarming replies.
Re: Were Ram and Krishna mentioned in Quran as prophets?
Do you believe in the God of Spinoza?" Einstein replied as follows:
I can't answer with a simple yes or no. I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvellously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations. I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but admire even more his contributions to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and the body as one, not two separate things.
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To singhs
What is the purpose of god coming down in human form.........
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^ Good question. But god doesn't only come as a human form. It can also come as a dog, horse, sex organ etc.....
so you better rephrase your question hareem01 :)
I'd rather ask, why would god only appear in forms that humans can see in this physical world? Why doesn't god appear in his real form so that there be no doubt in him and his nature. If he is god he can do it, right ?/?/?
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So live with aritmatic and algebra being the last frontiers of mathmatics. Its all yours........ :)
While making such statements, you don't realize, you look stupid. You can burry your head in the sand but those reading such replies of yours are not blind.
So carry on with your comments.
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To singhs
You said :everytime god "cannot" get his job done through Prophets........
Why can't he..........
And I did'nt understand the "job" of the God.If God cannot get his job done by his prophets then that means He can't help them.........
And If god can't help his prophets then what else can he do.
There are three ways of doing idolatry
(a)worshipping of an image or idol that you makewith your hands
(b)worshipping the hand made idol or image and start thinking that the god has gone into it(idol or image)
(c)Worshipping your own desires
I want to know the "hindu view"about the end of this world and what happens after death?
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^ Good intelligent questions :)
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you pray towards mecca kaaba and it contains stone that does not mean god physcically lives there lives there
god dont exist on the opposite side.? you throw stones at satan in during
haj pilgrimage. you circambulate mecca these are symbolism. actually you dont
throw stones at satan it more symbolic.
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what you ask when you pray what hindus ask whatever they pray same thing
how do you know or prove you got something from your prayer they did not get?
if ypur child get sick you go to mosque they go t temple same goals it is just
a belief if oyu want to make serous idelogical warfare out of this it is your
problem. you should worry about your child getting better than worrying about
your neighbor’s child not getting well praying to wrong god.
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We Muslims don't worship kaaba nor we think that god lives there.........The kaaba is a place that God has fixed for Muslims to face in the same direction to Pray.........
All Muslims in the whole world face towards kaaba while praying ........and it shows our unity.
Yes,there is a stone in it from heavens........but we don't worship that stone.stone is sacred for us but still we don't worship it.
I did'nt understand what you are saying about the throwing stones at satan...........we don't have any picture or idol of satan there.
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a very overused but still effective reply to muslims.:)
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so if i am correct: to hindus, god is everything - and everything is god?
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I have explained why god has to come in every yuga earlier,
I dont want to go deep into it. Just leave it as a philosophy of hinduism.
Now how do i pray?
I dont do too much of rituals. For me prayer is of two of types: 1> going to a temple in front of a deity. Asking him apart from material desires, i also try to get answers for spiritual questions. You can atleast imagine how christians, buddhists i dont know who all?...Just look at them, you will get an answer, atleast somewhat.
2>. Even meditation is also a form of prayer to me. The only thing is,in this prayer, I will just 'attempt', to forget that there is somebody called as 'ssingh', i will also forget these noun or pronouns like 'you', 'I', 'We' 'us'. "I will just 'attempt' to be one with this universe". Everybody thinks yoga is a kind of physical exersice. But it's more than that. It is linked to above, what all i have mentioned. Now you can really call me mentally unstable. I dont care. I cannot find better words to explain this.
lahore981....,
I know what you are trying to explain. You are telling that "it is upto us to choose the right form of prayer, or the right method of praying to god. Even though god can make us to or force us to pray god in a 'formless' way, it is upto choose for that kind of worship. But, it's some people who dont do that".
I hope I have summarised what you meant.
I am perfectly alright with praying to god in a formless way. In fact my second method has more or less to do with a formless god. I do acknowledge that praying god in a formless way, has it's own good's.Scriptures in hinduism do acknowledge that also.
Dont see any arrogance in whatever i am going to say. you are trying to be a judge. Which form of worship is better?...leave that to god. If he likes your form of worship, he will do good to you.
Besides, there is enough explanation in hindu scriptures against idol worship. I am okay with both. I have no qualms with both.
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Don't use this tactic to turn the table over. Reply to what has been asked from you. We don't need a question OVER a question.
No doubt it is a good question from rvikz. May be the best comment he has ever produced. I'll answer it, for sure but buddy, you need to reply to what has been asked from you. You cannot ask a question over a question already beed asked from you.....
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first of all there is no order coming from top you should pray you can be aethiest
too .
No single creed or doctrine binds Hindus together. Intellectually there is complete freedom of belief, and one can be monotheist, polytheist, or atheist. Hinduism is a syncretic religion, welcoming and incorporating a variety of outside influences.