I don’t know any case of mandir masjid demolition done by them in their rule, even Jules Verne “Around the world in 80 days” mentions their strict policy of maintaining religious sanctity. The word secular itself is invented by them, thanks to them, they stopped practice of Sati and Child marriage, other wise superior cultured Indians would not have stopped:D
Indeed, also india should give them credit of developing system from police to millitary to the taste of democracy:k:
because Purbiyas made the stories too, of course enfield rifle’s bullet had pig and cow fat but they have mixed these elements in wheat flour etc were stories of Purbiyas, they fought religious fought, after driving out brits they would have fought among themselves too:)
Brits weren’t Satan, We disagreed with their rule because their laws were different in Britain and India, In england Gandhi always travelled First class but in british controlled SA it wasn’t possible so he was thrown out. Modern day britain is rich just like India was, they came here for better life and we are going there for better life, stomach do not understand these type of emotions:)
I am not sure if Quaid e azam wanted Pakistan to be a secular country or not, as he only stayed alive for a few months after the independence. All the slogans like "Pakistan ka matlab kya La illaha illah" and "Muslim hay to Muslim League main aa" point to some other direction. Having said he certainly wanted the minorities in the country to have equal rights, but with each passing day the intolerance in the country has increased. First half of the history is marred by instability in Balochistan, Bangladesh and later part Afghanistan war, WOT and Balochistan again which has only served to increase the intolerance.
I agree with you people at present are being killed right, left and center without any reason. The multiple war fronts that different successive regimes have opened need to be closed for reducing the increasing trend of intolerance in the country.
I am not sure if Quaid e azam wanted Pakistan to be a secular country or not, as he only stayed alive for a few months after the independence. All the slogans like "Pakistan ka matlab kya La illaha illah" and "Muslim hay to Muslim League main aa" point to some other direction. Having said he certainly wanted the minorities in the country to have equal rights, but with each passing day the intolerance in the country has increased. First half of the history is marred by instability in Balochistan, Bangladesh and later part Afghanistan war, WOT and Balochistan again which has only served to increase the intolerance.
Ali, as earlier said by someone that being secular doesn't have specified boundaries. Quaid may be secular to the extent of giving minorities their rights,, but he was not secular to the extent of inter-marriages as evident from Dina-Vadia marriage episode.
Ali, as earlier said by someone that being secular doesn't have specified boundaries. Quaid may be secular to the extent of giving minorities their rights,, but he was not secular to the extent of inter-marriages as evident from Dina-Vadia marriage episode.
But Quaid was very secular when he married with a Parsee though she nominally converted or used to have pork sausages, from Mr Jinnah to Quaid is very interesting story of man though:)
But Ratan Bai is reported to understood Islam before conversion. She was not under any compulsions and Mr Jinah never encouraged her considering the age difference and his relationship with Ratan Bai's parents. It was Rattan Bai who started taking interest in our dashing Mr Jinah :)
How many (living) famous Muslims can we name that are Indian? Now, try again and leave out the Music & Film industry? I can now only think of one. Obviously I'm sure there are more, but to what extent? Now do the same for Pakistan. Much higher hits for our search query. India has a an equal if not higher (which I suspect is the more likely of the two) Muslim population than Pakistan.
One of non-religious reasons for Pakistan. How we treat those great people like utter crap is a different matter though.
Yes muslim feel left out in government jobs in india....if you compare percentage of muslim population with government jobs alloted to muslims you will find a huge difference....
you can see clear bias in government jobs.....
B8ut muslim professionals are successful india....
post of president is ceremonial...and those who say that muslims can be president are right but let they contest any democratic election from any hindu majority constituency and secure a seat in assembly or parliament.....
so the king of england cannt marry a catholic and a catholic cannt be king of england
Yes muslim feel left out in government jobs in india....if you compare percentage of muslim population with government jobs alloted to muslims you will find a huge difference....
you can see clear bias in government jobs.....
B8ut muslim professionals are successful india....
this is news for me.infact person from BC caste have better chance to get the job then forword caste guy,unless someone gets the job through bribe which should have gone to a guy from backward caste ,i don't see how a person gets rejected due to religion
may be in private sector if the guy has some kind of grudge agains't muslims same goes opposite way, have seen lot in bangalore where muslims guys who are team leaders take their own kind for vacant posts
this is news for me.infact person from BC caste have better chance to get the job then forword caste guy,unless someone gets the job through bribe which should have gone to a guy from backward caste ,i don't see how a person gets rejected due to religion
may be in private sector if the guy has some kind of grudge agains't muslims same goes opposite way, have seen lot in bangalore where muslims guys who are team leaders take their own kind for vacant posts
And seen lot of bias against muslim in government job as you seen exploitation of power in private jobs by muslims
only statistic can talk more than words just check out percentage of muslims in government jobs in post independence India..
Dont say muslims are uneducated thats why can not get job....
And seen lot of bias against muslim in government job as you seen exploitation of power in private jobs by muslims
unlike private job there isn't single entity with power ,unless higher official has personal grudge can't say about ur state but in majority of places here in south india communal tensions are very low
plus major poition of jobs in government sector is occupied by minorities be it muslim,christian or backword caste hindu
only statistic can talk more than words just check out percentage of muslims in government jobs in post independence India..
Dont say muslims are uneducated thats why can not get job....
check same statics for education.there is no rule if muslims are 20 percent of population jobs percentage should also be 20 percent .......
it's ur own community that needs to earn..
for statics sikhs are overpresented in army,same goes for scientists from iyer/iyengar community of tamil nadu
majority of IIT students comes from my own state that includes many muslims,just because ur hindu/muslim north or south indian no one is going to hand over silver plate.....
unlike private job there isn't single entity with power ,unless higher official has personal grudge can't say about ur state but in majority of places in south india communal tensions are very low
plus major poition of jobs in government sector is occupied by minorities be it muslim,christian or backword caste hindu
check same statics for education.there is no rule if muslims are 20 percent of population jobs percentage should also be 20 percent percent.......
it's ur own community that needs to earn..
for statics sikh are overpresented in army,same goes for scientists from iyer/iyengar community of tamil nadu
majority of IIT students comes from my own state that includes many muslims,just because ur hindu/muslim north or south india no one is going to hand over silver plate.....
But when 20% muslims are limited to only 4% jobs you can sense bias if you not biased yourself....
Iyengar and all these are castes or they are religions different than hinduism....?
do define you are logic you are using example of caste while I am talking about religious bias..as far as sikhs are concerned they are follower of an indian religion and some hindus call them sword of hinduism....
these example of different caste does not deny bias against muslims....
Just show me muslim police man with beard in maharashtra while sikhs can have beard and Kirpan anywhere...
Though in Andhra muslim police men have beard...
Have not you heard famous case when muslim student was kicked out for sporting a beard and I remember a case when policeman was suspended for sporting beard
And will be a blow to all those who died for cause of pakistan....
I disagree dude. Pakistan was made due to increasing hostility between Muslims and Hindus. I.e, riots and hate speech started to break out between two religions. And fueled by religious extremists on two different sides. That is why killing and mass murder took place between Muslims and Hindus..which is very very sad!. Politically,..hindus were majority..Muslims knew that they would face discrimination from Hindu majority. So in essence, Quaid was brilliant man who has realized this early and in a way i feel quiet appreciated.
I disagree dude. Pakistan was made due to increasing hostility between Muslims and Hindus. I.e, riots and hate speech started to break out between two religions. And fueled by religious extremists on two different sides. That is why killing and mass murder took place between Muslims and Hindus..which is very very sad!. Politically,..hindus were majority..Muslims knew that they would face discrimination from Hindu majority. So in essence, Quaid was brilliant man who has realized this early and in a way i feel quiet appreciated.
I dont think muslim want a secular state ...as a muslim i want to see a real islamic state with fair treatment for minorities as prescribed by shariah.....
As far as Quaid is concerned he was indeed a great man....before partition he was suffering from Tuberculosis but he successfully hided it from public otherwise as per british account british would have delayed transfer of power to natives