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The leader of these extremists is sitting in eastern Afghanistan, wonder why your brilliant and high tech army cant catch him, or maybe you dont want to.
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We need the help of US , We are fighting for them openly sinse 1958 , (SETO, SENTO) and respnse was always like peanut . Now it may be the last time to look to US otherwise the globe will see the worst .
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At least 24 killed in jet planes strikes in north Waziristan
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so there is a operation going on in NW at the moment? or it's yet to start?
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This is the training and preparedness of the security forces to counter highly trained terrorists. Something for the government to think about.
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Unconfirmed news is that Adnan Rasheed the chief strategist of TTP has been killed in the recent airstrikes by the army.
The army should take the high command of TTP out now. Efforts should be made to reduce collateral damage as a result. The militants are taking our restraint as weakness.
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The man on the right is Adnan Rasheed.
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While politicians squabble, the TTP gears up - DAWN.COM
KUNAR: While Pakistan’s politicians show only indecisiveness over a strategy for dealing with militants, the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has quietly been making the most of the situation and is gearing up for what it conceives of as the “long war ahead”.
Some of Pakistan’s politicians appear to believe that the country’s militancy issues would be resolved once the US and its allies exit Afghanistan. But commanders of the officially banned TTP and even the Afghan Taliban are convinced otherwise.
According to them, the withdrawal of US-led troops would merely mark the end of one phase of operations and their “long war” will continue until the establishment of a global caliphate. They make no bones about their desire to extend their expansionist designs into Pakistan, once they are powerful enough.
The TTP has been holding marathon meetings here in Afghanistan as well as Fata, and inducting some known hawks into prominent positions.
Qari Shakeel Ahmed Haqqani, the deputy chief of the banned organisation’s Mohmand chapter, has been appointed the head of the TTP’s political shura.
“He has previously served as the head of the TTP’s grand shura and is known as a person who does not compromise on his principles,” a TTP leader based in North Waziristan told Dawn, adding that some of the earlier commanders had not been as “ambitious” and “decisive” as Haqqani.
This scribe recently met Qari Shakeel Ahmed Haqqani here and questioned him on the chances of a successful dialogue given that the TTP is refusing to halt attacks in Pakistan.
“A ceasefire is a two-way process,” he said. “You expect us to cease attacks when the government is continuing its operations in Fata and in the cities. We want to make it clear that if we are talking about dialogue then it is not from a position of weakness. We are very capable of fighting.”
Dawn spoke to dozens of TTP fighters based in Afghanistan and different parts of Fata; they displayed unanimity in their position on talks.
“Everyone knows that Shariah cannot be implemented through talks,” said Asad Khan, a fighter from the TTP’s Mohmand chapter.
So why bother with considering talks in the first place? This was asked of Ehsanullah Ehsan, former chief spokesman of the TTP and currently serving as a senior member of the political shura.
“We also long for peace and are willing to explore all options if that benefits the people of Pakistan,” he said.
But a member of the TTP’s grand shura acknowledged on the condition of anonymity that the real motives are different.
“Alhamdulillah we have managed to gain many of the benefits that were obtained by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the sulah of Hudaybiah,” he said.
“Some of the benefits gained through the treaty of Hudaybiah included political legitimacy, the time and space to regroup and the opportunity to engage with the public,” explained Mufti Tahir Jami, a Karachi-based religious scholar.
An analysis of the statements coming from TTP (central) and its Mohmand branch suggests internal differences. The TTP Mohmand comes across as trying to sabotage the talks process.
Some, however, believe that this is part of the game. “It seems that the TTP has deliberately created the impression that there is a difference of opinion between different factions, such as the Mohmand group and the centre. I believe this is a ploy — good cop, bad cop,” said Tariq Habib, an investigative journalist who reports on militancy.
“We are willing to hold talks even at this stage but the government is not sincere,” said TTP spokesman Shahidullah Shahid.
“The government does not even have the power to take key decisions. We are prepared for a ceasefire but the government must first announce a ceasefire from its side.”
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What rubbish. The usual opportunistic, preachy fluff that you would only expect from a confused Pakistani journalist.
The question everyone should really be asking is that how come army can retaliate and launch military offensive every now and then yet won’t declare military operation as a definite and official policy nor dismiss peace talks. On the other hand, politicians will advocate negotiations yet won’t criticise or even question army operation such as this one, or the one quite recently conducted? What is going on? Who supports who? These are the questions that general public should ask.
To me it looks like perhaps there is a certain method to their madness, but what that method really is, no one knows.
I hope the message has been delivered to the TTP, either surrender themselves peacefully at the negotiation tables or face action.
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What rubbish. The usual opportunistic, preachy fluff that you would only expect from a confused Pakistani journalist.
The question everyone should really be asking is that how come army can retaliate and launch military offensive every now and then yet won’t declare military operation as a definite and official policy nor dismiss peace talks. On the other hand, politicians will advocate negotiations yet won’t criticise or even question army operation such as this one, or the one quite recently conducted? What is going on? Who supports who? These are the questions that general public should ask.
To me it looks like perhaps there is a certain method to their madness, but what that method really is, no one knows.
I hope the message has been delivered to the TTP, either surrender themselves peacefully at the negotiation tables or face action.
You did not get it. Did you? Army is still calling the shots, even departure of Mush did not make any much difference. Key decisions are still at the hands of army. IK and others are afraid to say this in public.
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Reports suggest that Adnan Rasheed and his family have been killed in recent strikes, if true then this would be the first high profile terrorist killed by Pakistan army. It seems as if the army under Raheem shareef has decided to respond to the militants in the same way that they understand.
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It's seems that our intelligence agencies know how to trace and clean them!!
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It's seems that our intelligence agencies know how to trace and clean them!!
I am sure they know where they are, why they dont clean them up I dont know.
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What rubbish. The usual opportunistic, preachy fluff that you would only expect from a confused Pakistani journalist.
The question everyone should really be asking is that how come army can retaliate and launch military offensive every now and then yet won’t declare military operation as a definite and official policy nor dismiss peace talks. On the other hand, politicians will advocate negotiations yet won’t criticise or even question army operation such as this one, or the one quite recently conducted? What is going on? Who supports who? These are the questions that general public should ask.
To me it looks like perhaps there is a certain method to their madness, but what that method really is, no one knows.
I hope the message has been delivered to the TTP, either surrender themselves peacefully at the negotiation tables or face action.
APC decided to talk to the taleban on 9th Sept, within a week they killed a general, then came the attack on a Church in Peshawar, then attacks on random targets in KPK (including killing a PTI lawmaker), then Bannu and Rawalpindi. Doesnt show the desire to talk or does it? In the face of all these provocations if the state remains silent, it does not send out a good message.
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TTP have refuted claims that Adnan Rasheed has been killed where as the authorities are persisting.
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APC decided to talk to the taleban on 9th Sept, within a week they killed a general, then came the attack on a Church in Peshawar, then attacks on random targets in KPK (including killing a PTI lawmaker), then Bannu and Rawalpindi. Doesnt show the desire to talk or does it? In the face of all these provocations if the state remains silent, it does not send out a good message.
That's an incredibly simplified view.
The army and civilians authorities themselves have said that there are around 70 different terrorist groups that fall under the TTP umbrella; some of those groups have expressed desire for talks, while others remain committed to violence. I’m as anti army as anyone should realistically be, but even a person like me is willing to give them credit for pacifying the minor violent groups and weakening the TTP, to a great degree. An isolated, weak and smaller TTP is strategically easier to fight than getting trapped guerrilla fighting 70 odd violent groups all around the country. To answer your questio, perhaps at one stage, the army was not interested in sending any ‘message’, while they are in the middle of appeasing minor groups? That would've been a waste of time and efforts. Could be a possibility, couldn’t it?
There is so much to this issue than what media reports. And really, what does the media actually know? What insight do they have about this issue? What's their level of access to inside information? Nothing, zero, zilch.
A person like me basically just want army to come forward an own up to a policy! Whatever that is. They need to either totally veto the peace talks and offer military operation as a way forward or simply don’t behind politicians. If there’s a joint agreement and collaboration between armed forces and civilian government (Which I feel there is) then they need to openly acknowledge that. There’s no shame and loss of pride in doing that. When will the armed forces realise this?
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Government is also claiming that 40 militans have been killed in last night's bombing.
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TTP commander Adnan Rasheed believed dead
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Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:29:30 PM
Staff Report PESHAWAR: Most-wanted commander of the Tahrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Adnan Rasheed is believed to have died in counter offensive launched by the security forces. Official sources have confirmed said that Rasheed died as a result of bombing by jet fighters at his house in Miranshah, North Waziristan.They said he died in overnight bombing in the area. However, there is no official confirmation from the military while TTP has also not confirmed reports about this death. Four relatives of Rasheed are also reported to have died in that incident. Rasheed, who masterminded atta…
Drones are helping us , Those should be used under Pakistan’s guidance .
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US missiles killed no more than 4 civilians in Pakistan in '13: study
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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:09:54 AM
ISLAMABAD: U.S. CIA drone strikes against militants in Pakistan killed no more than four civilians last year, according to an annual study by a British-based organisation, the lowest number of reported civilian deaths since the drone programme began in 2004. The study by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism released this month showed that the number of civilian casualties stood at between zero and four. The findings may reinforce the position of those who support unmanned drones in a debate over the legality, effectiveness and accuracy of the strikes compared to more traditional military…
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Pakistan bombs militant hideouts in tribal area after Taliban attacks
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Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:27:25 AM
MIRANSHAH/PESHAWAR: Pakistani fighter jets and helcopters attacked suspected Taliban hideouts in a tribal area on the Afghan border on Tuesday, killing up to 40 people, military sources and residents said, after a wave of insurgent attacks against security forces. It was the first time the air force has resorted to fighter jets in the volatile region since it struck a ceasefire agreement with local Taliban chiefs in 2007. Air strikes also hit the nearby tribal region of Kurram. “Can you hear the noise of the gunships? They are just over our heads,” resident Haji Jamaludin told Reuters by t…
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With the passage of time, the little hope I had that Pakistan would come out of this mess is diminishing. It's almost impossible for us to take care of this monster now that our military and political establishments have prepared in 40 years. Militants have got safe havens through out the country. We wanted to control Afghanistan and annex Kashmir by force, here we are on the verge of becoming a proxy of Afghanistan (maybe history repeating itself).