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well i am not unislamic according to them because i am not looking at pornography or anything unislamic. so why you bought that pathetic argument is beyond me.
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Taliban said you may look at pornography so banned net access for everyone, you could potentially look at porn so get of the net.
Taliban baned education for girls. Those schools providing an education where in secreacy from religious police.
So if some dude came up and said show me your manly hood you wouldnt mind ?
Still havent answered question on salaat ? Praying for god or fear of lashings.
You support Al-Qaida aswell ? they where Talibans guests.
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What makes these SOLDIERS martyres? Fighting a Muslim doesn't reward you with martyrdom.
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northern alliance soldiers are kafirs/munafiqs, so yes it does make it jihad to fight them. about martyrdom, i am not sure who really dies on the path of allah with true intention, so even some taliban might have had bad intention, but only allah knows who fights and dies on his cause but we know the outward intentions and outward intentions of taliban were correct...
and about manlihood thing, i dont understand what you mean? i have never heard that taliban were checking penis of males..for waht reason? let me know the entire story then i can make a comment
and i can guarantee you that there were schools under taliban run afghainstan with official help. there were reports on even guardian.co.uk that there existed nursing schools for women in taliban run afghanistan with official cover.
Still havent answered question on salaat ? Praying for god or fear of lashings.
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you must be kidding me, i have read papers from some scholars who were complaining that taliban were too lenient on enforcing prayers, so they were not really the extremists you imagine them to be. but the main issue is that making the enviroment where prayers are established is islamic govt's duty. now at fitst it might seem too aggressive, but once people get used to it, there will be no fear of lashing and people would do it out of their habit. now if the prayers are accepted or not by allah depends on their intentions, but atleast the enviroment will be sound and if every one prays the little kids would too learn to pray and it would encourage good and forbid evil rather than allowing people to do bad such as miss jamaat salat when masjid is close by. because that will lead the kids to think that it is ok if u miss jamaat salat for no reason becuase so many people do so.
Taliban had the dreaded religious police who would check your penis are for any public hair. If you had any you would be subjected to 2 days prison and a few lashings for good measure. Taliban did NOT PERMIT education for girls. Why would schools be setup in secreacy if those so called protectors of islam would openly allow them. They didnt even want to allow teaching of science until OBL said he wouldnt fund them with $$$ if they refused science lessons. Your own dad cant hit you if you dont go to mosque to make salat after you reach the age of 12 so who says Taliban can. If someone has the fear of God in their heart they will go to the mosque themselves. They are praying for their own benefit not Taliban. If the kid is under 12 it's the responsabilty of father to take the kid to mosque after the age of 7 and mothers for daughter.
I never said NA where angles did I, nor did I support them in any way from my previous posts.
I take it you support the Al-Qaida network. I've known many people like you who are blind and follow any extreme cause put forward. Not worth the effort brain washed by others. Get yourself a decent islamic education how about fatwas from the islamic university of Cairo rather than the wankers from Al-Muhajrun or bent mullahs from pak wanting to earn a few $$$ under the table from violence aka religious mafia.
What you doing on the internet again. You must be looking up at pornography you deserve 500 lashings and a week in prison !
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northern alliance soldiers are kafirs/munafiqs, so yes it does make it jihad to fight them. about martyrdom, i am not sure who really dies on the path of allah with true intention, so even some taliban might have had bad intention, but only allah knows who fights and dies on his cause but we know the outward intentions and outward intentions of taliban were correct...
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And the Pakistani Army comes in this KUFAR category aside NA as well. They both do what the Kafir tells them to. :) The reason why Punjabi-Pankistani army is in Afghan Tribal Areas is because Kufar ordered them to.
And the Pakistani Army comes in this KUFAR category aside NA as well. They both do what the Kafir tells them to. :) The reason why Punjabi-Pankistani army is in Afghan Tribal Areas is because Kufar ordered them to.
lol @ Azizi, man i love you!
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it couldnt be becuase idiots where killing innocent people at random, trying to assasinate the president of the country, providng training for those invloved in secetarin violence ? Obviously not they lived in wonderland their. Minded thieir own busnises never killed another person or threatend the national security of a country.
It is obvious some of us have fallen victim to westernized ideologies about taliban.
When it was them who detoriated 85%! of the world's opium supply!
and when those peaceworkers came into afghanistan, the Taliban asked them for support, to aid the diseased children of afghanistan, because they were dieng of hunger. THOSE PEACE SH*T "aid" workers decided to fund the project to restore the buddhist statues instead of feeding the starving country.
OFCOURSE taliban would retaliate to that, who wouldn't.
And most of us are forgetting, its not our FREEwill to just choose islam, or pray or not to pray, PRAYING IS WAJIB, OBLIGATORY, wether you like it or not, if its too "extreme" for you to bow down to your lord, then you can leave islam, no one cares.
The west has always brought out ideas of oppression, and cruelty when it comes to any place practicing shariah laws, they will always be an enemy of islam. They always have been. Because they know, they are where they are today, because of the foundations set by muslims!
So it is ok you think the taliban are cruel and injust. Some of us obviously haven't understood the laws of god that well. Pakistani soldiers dieng in battle aren't shaheeds. You are a Shaheed when you die in the path of Allah, not when you are on a path away from Allah.
I think some of us are forgeting some crucial facts in taliban stopping opium production. USA was offering a load of $$$ to allow a oil pipeline through Afghanistan. They deemed they couldnt do business with them becuase they produced to much Opium and it's off shoots i.e. heroin. ONLY THEN did taliban start eradication opium fields.
The peace works been helping people of Afghanistan before those taliban wankers formed a party. Treated them in battle against the soviet, saved them from death. In return they go and kill them becuase they help someone talibs dont like. Any justifcation for killing doctors ?
The statue belonged to the Buddhist people of Afghanistan. Non muslims do live their if you havent noticed yet. How would you like it if someone came and blew up a mosque because you live in a non-muslim country.
No point of arguing you got a twisted set of views. Read to many fatwas from those bent on killing non muslims and spreading hatred among each other. Another point the taliban got a nice reward from it's arab finacers for blowing up those buddhas.
If you love taliban and co so much why dont you go to where evet they hide at the moment. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time.
And its utterly understandable, maybe you ought to read Yvonne Ridley's Articles after she was kidnapped by the Taliban.
Most people, muslims especially forget. They totally forget the real martyrs dieng for them worldwide. The only people actually fighting the opression are condemned evil, and terrorist. Muslims have forgotten that we are the most oppressed nation on earth. And when we stand up to the oppression, we're terrorists. But in the eyes of Allah, we're shining diamonds.
Don't tell me its coincidental that the hamas, taliban, alqaida, hibzul tahrir, are all terrorists because they support the revolution of islamic law over capitalism, and are fighting to keep the name of Islam alive, when most of us muslims do nothing but sit at home like cowards and call them terrorists. Shame on me, shame on us!
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when most of us muslims do nothing but sit at home like cowards and call them terrorists. Shame on me, shame on us!
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What's worse is sitting at home calling the west the enemy of Islam, when your home is in the west. Why don't you grow some stones, get your a$$ out of kaafirland and join the jihad you hypocrite.
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maybe you ought to read Yvonne Ridley's Articles after she was kidnapped by the Taliban
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At least get your facts right. Have you read her articles or was it a book ? The reason she studied the Quran was to see the reasoning behind the oppression of woman under taliban. She did not find anything whch oppressed woman in the Quran and took the word of god to heart. Not because taliban converted her.
At least get your facts right. Have you read her articles or was it a book ? The reason she studied the Quran was to see the reasoning behind the oppression of woman under taliban. She did not find anything whch oppressed woman in the Quran and took the word of god to heart. Not because taliban converted her.
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It was a pact she made with the Taliban, that is why they released her! I have met her in person, please don't even try to tell me to get my facts straight.
What's worse is sitting at home calling the west the enemy of Islam, when your home is in the west. Why don't you grow some stones, get your a$$ out of kaafirland and join the jihad you hypocrite.
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and tell me how this is not related in anyway to the muslim uprisings across the globe. Please do tell me.
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It was a pact she made with the Taliban, that is why they released her! I have met her in person, please don't even try to tell me to get my facts straight.
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And your point is ?
They wanted to release her on the basis she would be allowed to go free if she converted to Islam now. She refused but said she would study it for herself later. However she didnt like what the taliban where doing, only when the Quran proved to her that talibs had lost the plot did she accept Islam.
Maybe you forgot to read the part where she was placed in a room surronded by a beautiful garden, in which fragrances of roses constantly came around with the cool breeze. Where she was treated with respect and as if she had been a guest, not a visitor.
And how her colleagues treated her when she got back.
What about the people who make up Afghanistan, they where not treated with repect. Dont forget the most famous 'guest' as officially refered to by taliban Bin Laden.
Yvone was treated with repect IMO only because she was a journalist who could have slagged them off even more when she was eventually released so had a go at making themselves look acceptable. Also genuinley persuading someone nicely tends to work better than a gun to the head.
Other woman where treated badly. For example if a woman needed surgery lets say she had cancer and only one surgeon could preform the operation in Afghanistan who turns out to be male the Taliban religious police would ban the operation as doctor/surgen not a female.
Anyway let me get your argument right you brought Yvone ridly into the argument and your defence of the taliban is she could smell roses and had a nice view of a garden. So they must be nice people.
Yvone was treated with repect IMO only because she was a journalist who could have slagged them off even more when she was eventually released so had a go at making themselves look acceptable. Also genuinley persuading someone nicely tends to work better than a gun to the head.
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you are mistaken indeed..if they ever cared about the world opinion, they would not have blasted those buddha statues even after the
cheif mufti of al azhar personaly asked them not to destroy them. they never cared about public opinion..especially not of western nations...they treated her nicely only because of their islamic attitude...and allah knows best....
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yes, yvone was infact treated with utmost respect.
afghani women ofcourse, were not quite as gently treated.
ghar ki murghi daal barabar :-/
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you think protection from rape, being traded by warlords like trading cards, and death from drunken NA soldiers is not good enough? ask those women who were victims of the NA soldiers when they went on a raping rampage. or those warlords who sold and bought and even traded women...but blind will never see the reality and deaf will never listen to the truth...