Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Why not become actual muslim? Why fake or do a ‘trial’ as muslim.
Being muslim is not being a king or queen for one day!
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
I think what he meant that freethinker is like aethist or one who just follows what a man can come up with in his mind.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Oh baboo! you won’t understand the process of discovery. UK aloo stores are too smelly to allow someone think. Ask Usaf Islam how long did it take for him to leave the Cat behind.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
When it is established by the ayah mentioned in Surah tauba that it is forbidden for non muslims to come near the Harmen Shareefen, aap log iss dhaagaY maiN behs kar kay kiyaa ukhaaR lo gey?
only will end up insulting each other and when everyone is done, thread will be finally locked.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Aunty you are confused…On one hand you find it good that the Iraq war started and made Pakistan’s economy rich on thousands of Iraqi murdred, on the other hand you wish to place restrictions on how many people should become Muslims, now you wish to open up the two Sacred Masajid to the Kuffar…Why?
If they wish to become Muslims, they can do it wherever they are…Examples are millions who have done it and will keep doing it…
If they are forbidden to the kuffar, so they are forbidden to the kuffar...By Allah :swt: as well as the Holy Prophet :saw:...So no amount of westernization by the likes of you will change that as long as Muslims are alive...
Like Allama said, Aik hon Muslim haram ki pasbani ke liye...
They were off-limits and :insha: will remain off-limits...
And no amount off teeth gritting, jealousy and envy from the likes of you or any Kuffar will ever change that…Even if they wish to kill every Muslim and stand truimphantlly on the roof of the Kaaba…Which is their desire to do…
And they don't realize that this is hatred, that bubbles from within their hearts...
You don’t know how it irks them for Muslims to have two spots on this wide earth exclusively for themselves…And in their hearts, they foster a sick dream of one day walking with their shoes on inside the Haram and desecrating it…It is their sickness…But they call it peace…
And you would agree with them…As has been prophesied about some Muslims, how they’ll follow the Kuffar to the ends of the world…
And then you’d find some way of finding out how profitable it was for Pakistan…
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Yes - the sickness, hatred, sick dream, jealousy, envy, teeth gritting, and standing truimphantlly on the roof of the Kaaba while not knowing what peace is can come from those who in arrogant ignorance believe they are rigtheous.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
If the Kuffar in this thread who are so irked by the restrictions placed upon them towards visiting the two Holy Sanctuaries had an ounce of respect or spirituality of their own, they would surely not say the things that they stated in this thread…
They would understand it as a means of a religion to manifest what has been ordained…But they lack both…Hence their desire and sickness to open these two places to the Kuffar…Why? For no reason other than the fact that it pertains to Islam…And anything that pertains to Islam makes them grit their teeth…
Allah :swt: has said, the Kuffar will never be pleased until you become like them in everything…
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Quran mentions that non-muslims r not to enter the Holy Places....
Quran mentions that jews and christians r also kaafir....
what is it, antiobl, that u fail to see????
have u even read the verses posted here or do u blindfold urself and keep beating ur own drum????
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Why should Kafirs be allowed in Makkah & Madina? There is no reason for them to be there. & since they ARE kafirs, if they were to come, they might try something fishy with our Holy Places... like those 2 guys who became fake Muslims, and tried to dig a whole in Madina all the way to Prophet Muhammed's (pbuh) grave.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
this is the new Musharraf bred generation, which Astafirullah wants to ammend whats in the Qur’an! they have this naiive and somewhat stupid theories about Islam!
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
antiobl is blind. no matter how many times u try to explain it to him, he will not understand. instead he will twist up ur words a 100times and make another false statement.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Here are a few verses for those who didn't know:
When they (believers) hear worthless talk they turn away from it and say, 'We have our actions and you have your actions. Peace be upon you. We do not desire the company of the ignorant.' (28:55)
The servants of the All-Merciful are those who walk lightly on the earth and, who, when the ignorant speak to them, say, 'Peace'. (25:63)
(Conjecturers are) those who flounder in a glut of ignorance. (51:11)
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
One verseafter the verse you quoted, Allah says in the Quran
“And the Jews say: Uzair(ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah’s Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!”
So apprently the jews do associate someone with Allah.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
those who argue that jews and christians are not KAFIR! they are the "Moderate Moslems "who the kafirs like. the ones who affrirm that the jews and christians are KAFIRS are the "extremist". so basically to the kuffar the true Islaam is an extremist religion. well done to the Moderates who sold out!
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
You are going against the interpretation of Iman Abu Hanifa. Be careful you may be inviting hell fire.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
The simple point remains. There is a lot of places in the vatican that not only non-muslims but even the christians cannot go. Those places are simply banned to the public and opened only at the discretion of pope and other higher christian authorities for research purposes. The reason being that they have precious religious artifacts etc etc.
Along the same lines if Muslims want certain areas restricted to Muslims only, then it should be okay with the rest of the world. Why bring Abu Hanifa et. al. into this.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
ok brother why dont you show us what the true meanin is?
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
many people seem to quote imam Abu Haneefah not realisin that his aqeedah was the complete opposite to theres.
Re: Wahabis must open Makkah and Madeena to Non-Muslims (minus the hujj season)
Sincere Advise To All Of The Non Muslims Who Want To Visit Kabah And Medina...
Accept Islam And Just Visit These Places....afterall,many Of U Non Muslims Know Tht Islam Is The Brilliant And True Religion ;)