toba toba ..
ok 
I think you have your answer in this thread though. 
yeah
Toba Toba ppl i was talking about Tempex that will finish your virginity and you people started talking about your previous night story…Well thanks God ppl iam a virgin (As much as i know i didnt do anything wrong. :nono: till now)
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*Originally posted by suroor_ca02: *
tobah hai.. there are bigger issues to worry about then hymen!
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yeah hymen is a small matter to worry about....if rest inside is okay :p
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Skeptical? Take some time out and be definite about it. 
yeah
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Skeptical? Take some time out and be definite about it.
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hay Seedha shaada bibi
are you a girl or a boy... if a girl then i will define it for you and if a boy you will know it after marriage:D
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*Originally posted by Hum Sa Ho To Samne Aaye: *
In my opinion, it's the same as having a proper sexual relationship.
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Exactly yes. Just not penetrating inside doesnt make any difference while u are through every other thing.
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Logo mujh ko mubaarak ho
Ab pata naheen yeh virgin bhee hai ke naheen 
I remember reading on GUPSHUP that there is a village in Africa where after the first night the blood-stained bed sheet is proudly displayed in the village. Everyone who read it replied that this sounds gross, insulting and pretty much devoid of much intelligence on the part of the groom as well as the community.
Seems like those kinda people are not alone.
Interestingly, if blood-stains are so important and the girl doesn't want to go through the whole reconstruction of hymen, why doesn't she take some blood in a small cup and be done with it. Its all a game, play it wisely.
Reminds me of a joke. A chaloo girl gets married and decides to use red ink in the dark of the night. She forgets to get the bottle until the time she is taken to the bedroom. She hurriedly sends her younger brother to get the red ink. He couldnt find the red ink and hands over her green ink instead which she keeps believing its red. In the morning she sprinkles a few drops on the sheet. When her spouse sees the green spots and she herself notices the mess she starts crying…her spouse asked her why was she crying?
She cried, you penetrated till my gall-blader and damaged it 
yeah
Now faisal... it is not that easy for the girl to do that, cause the first person will be the husband who will feel it ...most of the guy will wait for the blood to come...yes to do that the girl should be very clever... and at morning the guys mom or sister will come to see it...
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m trying to believe all this
I just read the whole thread and what got me thinking are the comments made about the first night. I keep hearing “first night, first night” Aren’t we going too fast? I mean how many of the couples actually have “it” the first night.Keeping in mind, Majority of the marriages taking place in Pakistan are arranged marriages. So It only take a night to open up to one another.
That's not what I meant Sahar. I meant it's as immorally "wrong" as having a proper sexual relationship.
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I mean how many of the couples actually have "it" the first night.Keeping in mind, Majority of the marriages taking place in Pakistan are arranged marriages. So It only take a night to open up to one another.
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Ofcourse, I don't think there is ever a scientific poll done on this topic... but it seems once you sign on the dotted line (nikahnama) and the marriage is officially done (rukhsati), consumating the marriage on the first night is pretty normal among desi couples.
Infact, some people go to the extent of suggesting that the marriage MUST be consumated before valima. I don't know if there is any truth to that or is just circulated by frustrated men, however, the mind set of a typical desi couple who gets into an arranged marriage is different from a western couple going through a dating ritual. So trying to find similarities (by assuming a certain waiting period) probably is not going to work.
Sorry, Hum sa. I quoted the wrong post. Meant to quote the one below in my last post.
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*Originally posted by Hum Sa Ho To Samne Aaye: *
Are you sure about that? I thought it wasnt located too far back.
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errr… we are all talking about the blood and the girl and how the guy will wait for the blood to come out… I,d be freaking out! how the hell is one supposed to wait for the blood to come out?! If I successfully “do” it, that,d be an achievement enough for me I thik i,d be quite nervous. The men in question seem like seasoned pro’s.
I think instead of talking what happens after the so called wedding- maybe people should concentrate on what happens before .
If a girl is not a virgin- she should tell the guy before she marries him.If he doesnt accept it- then well move on.If he wont understand her, then best the marriage is called off.
Why worry about blood on the sheets or try to pretend by making a cut on your finger (actual incident I came to know about)or something? I thought marriage was based on trust. If shes going to be hiding this from him- she shouldnt be marrying him.And if he cant accept the fact that she isnt a virgin- he shouldnt marry her.
Instead of the divorce and what not after the wedding- best get things settled before.
Well said !! :k:
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I think instead of talking what happens after the so called wedding- maybe people should concentrate on what happens *before .
If a girl is not a virgin- she should tell the guy before she marries him.If he doesnt accept it- then well move on.If he wont understand her, then best the marriage is called off.
Why worry about blood on the sheets or try to pretend by making a cut on your finger (actual incident I came to know about)or something? I thought marriage was based on trust. If shes going to be hiding this from him- she shouldnt be marrying him.And if he cant accept the fact that she isnt a virgin- he shouldnt marry her.
Instead of the divorce and what not after the wedding- best get things settled before.
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Muslim_Queen,
What you say may be very practical and do able in the west, coz Virginity is not such a big issue here, yes even among muslims, and here in the west, people do understand that Virginity can be lost in many ways other than sex, (for eg Cycling).
Having said that, can you even imagine, the distress and trauma that a typical desi family back home go thru, when proposals of marriage are made, and then rejected for any damn reason??
To make matters worst God Forbid, if the proposal is rejected due to the Prospective Brides Confession of not being a Virgin!!!!!!!
Firstly the girls family are going to be devastated, the neighbourhood Khalas, Maasis, Phuphis, Chachis, Nanis, Dadis etc etc are going to have a field day. discussing and spreading rumours.
And God Help the young woman, Will she ever get married??????
The only logical reason I can come up with for this vast difference is, here in the west most people dont even know the names of their 2nd or 3rd neighbours.
Whereas back home not only the neighbours, the whole mohalla knows each other, and each others family and upcoming events, etc etc. And the Gossip machinery is so strong, it can ruin lives.
Its sad but true.
regards,
Aejaz
Blood stains, eh. This reminds me of a punjabi joke. I will try to keep it as clean and PG-13 as possible.
So this hymen-broken girl is about to get arranged marriage to a very conservative guy. Worried, she asks her friend for some fake means of proving her virginity on the wedding night. The friends suggests taking along a sachet of red ink to the bed and tearing it at the right moment to make it look like she bled. The tradition of the father and mother in law checking for blood stains will go smoothly.
Well, in the hustle bustle of things, she ends up buying dark blue ink by mistake thinking it was red. The next morning, when the in-law parents come to check the bed sheets, the father-in-law very proudly tells it to the mother-in-law, "oye mere sher dai putter nay tey pitta vee phaad ditta".