re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
These MQM traitorsl think they can hide their anti-Pakistan seperatist wishes in such language.
Let them try, and we can bring the next Gen.Babar to bring them back to pre Musharraf days.
well you can try your luck - but now neither MQM or any another party like ANP , sunni thereek are in such a weak position , where you can push them to the wall by using the military power ... Those days are long gone ..
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
ironically, at one same place one migrant thinks of other migrants as foreiger, wow.
Migration is not the issue - check and controls are required ....
No one wants a criminal moving to his soil and using it for his ill means
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
ironically, at one same place one migrant thinks of other migrants as foreiger, wow.
That's obnoxious 'taana' on all Urdu speaking people.
Actually irony is that when Urdu speakers call themselves "muhajir" then people like you make objection on the grounds that they are not "muhajir" or immigrant anymore. And yet now you yourself are calling them immigrant.
When someone who comes from other regions to Karachi then he is an outsider/foreigner. Why is this fact pis*ing you off?
Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun
Why isn't govt doing anything? Where is army, Zardari, Gilani? Or are they too busy looting the country?
While smoking a cigar, feeding almonds to his horses president ordered to restore "commissioner system" in Karachi, I am not sure what people told him about this "commi$$ioner" system.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
khoji im sorry but arent you getting a bit too sensitive?? if ppl dislike mqm is not coz of their language!! atleast I dont dislike the party just cuz the party workers are 99% urdu speakers!! ...
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
**okay so ... Mr.Zardari orders to revive commisoner system in karachi!
ISLAMABAD: In a meeting held at the Presidency on Friday to review the situation in Karachi, it was decided that while pursuing the policy of reconciliation with all political forces in the province, the provincial government will urgently revive commi$$ioner system in the city.**
What is the commissioner system exactly?
Read ^ again and you will know.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
These MQM traitorsl think they can hide their anti-Pakistan seperatist wishes in such language.
Let them try, and we can bring the next Gen.Babar to bring them back to pre Musharraf days.
These Taliban extremists think they can hide their anti-Pakistan fasadi wishes using such hateful muta'assib racist language.
What do you say about Taliban's declaration of jihad against common Urdu speaking people and their calling them non-Muslims and jews?
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
That's obnoxious 'taana' on** all Urdu speaking people.** Actually irony is that when Urdu speakers call themselves "muhajir" then people like you make objection on the grounds that they are not "muhajir" or immigrant anymore. And yet now you yourself are calling them immigrant.
When someone who comes from other regions to Karachi then he is an outsider/foreigner. Why is this fact pis*ing you off?
While calling oneself Muhajir, you call other "muhajir" as "foreigner", isn't that great? And besides, stop crying about "all Urdu speaking people", I am one too.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
Migration is not the issue - check and controls are required ....
No one wants a criminal moving to his soil and using it for his ill means
That is job of government, not of a political party.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
khoji im sorry but arent you getting a bit too sensitive?? if ppl dislike mqm is not coz of their language!! atleast I dont dislike the party just cuz the party workers are 99% urdu speakers!! ...
I apologize if you think I am being too sensitive. But I don't think understand why some people always blame MQM for everything and never criticize other stakeholders in the city. I don't see any justice.
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While calling oneself Muhajir, you call other "muhajir" as "foreigner", isn't that great?
This shows you don't understand what I am saying. No. I DON'T consider other muhajirs as foreigners if they are a part of Karachi.
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And besides, stop crying about "all Urdu speaking people", I am one too.
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You called Urdu speaking people "muhajir" or immigrant. Do you think it is ok to call yourself muhajir if you were born in Pakistan?
Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun
given that virtually every reporter on scene is saying its ANP/MQM fighting it out. For you to then say its not bw urdu speakers and pashtuns but about taleban.. .
Well, I never said that it is not between MQM, ANP, and PPP members fighting each other.
But I said that this particular increase in violence has to do with Taliban element present in the city. That is the root cause.
Now obviously this thing will escalate and more and more Urduspeaker/Pashtuns will be included here due to the spiral of violence. But the root cause does not change.
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So, people motivated by these extremist imams in pashtun population are going into their own homes and killing and burning?
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Again. I did not say that Urdu speakers are not doing it at all. Action and reaction knows no boundaries.
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What you have done is posted articles talking about a new dimension of Karachi's multifaceted violence, and claimed that this means that the people fighting today are these people.
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No. I have said that these people have escalated the fighting. This thing has been going on since long, but it was not as bad. It happened only when it was given religious approval through the use of fatwas from mosques.
Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun
Yes I think you push your favoured political parties point of view here, and if that means massaging the truth, so be it.
This is personal. You are attacking my integrity.
I know it won't matter to you, but I am not going to forget this.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
*KARACHI: The Sindh government authorised the Rangers on Friday to exercise the powers of police officers to ‘use necessary force to prevent terrorist acts’ as steps promised and taken hitherto failed to stop killings in Karachi and 30 people lost their lives on the fourth day of violence, raising the death toll to 93.
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The Qasba Colony and adjoining areas remained the worst affected, although the violence spread to the southern and eastern parts of the city and grenade and rocket attacks were also reported.
Scattered arson attacks left at least eight shops burnt in Aligarh Colony and a commercial centre in Kharadar met the same fate.
The violence that has so far remained beyond the control of police and Rangers forced residents of Qasba Colony and adjoining areas to flee to safe places.
A Sindh Rangers spokesman said personnel of the paramilitary force had helped evacuate hundreds of people trapped in strife-torn areas.
“We are moving the families to safe places and the exercise continues. Rangers troops helped mainly people in Qasba Colony and adjoining areas,” he said.
A grenade attack in the congested commercial area of Bheempura claimed three lives and rocket attacks on houses in Baldia Town spread panic in the densely-populated neighbourhood.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
City police chief Saud Mirza said: “**Two miscreants were killed in an encounter in Pak Colony area, while in other parts of the city we managed to arrest some 85 people and seized arms, including AK-47 rifles.
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“**To bring life back to normal in the city, we in a joint strategy with Sindh Rangers are planning special arrangements for Saturday that include security on major roads and regular business of transport and markets.”
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**Interior Minister Rehman Malik said 250 of the 1,000 Frontier Constabulary (FC) personnel being drafted in for deployment in the city on an urgent basis had already been deployed.
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Mr Malik promised “targeted action” against terrorists and miscreants without any discrimination and said a two-pronged strategy had been worked out to entrust police and Rangers with new responsibilities.
He said 89 suspects had been arrested in different areas. “Twelve of them are Urdu-speaking, 19 Pushto-speaking and three Baloch.”
He said elements of Taliban were present in Karachi and credible information about them had emerged from Kati Pahari and other areas.
He ruled out a military operation to weed out such elements and said paramilitary forces would be called from other areas if the need arose.
The minister appealed to MQM chief Altaf Hussain and the Awami National Party’s leader Asfandyar Wali to ask their followers to remain calm and help restore normality.
He thanked Mr Hussain for withdrawing his protest call and helping improve the atmosphere.
He said all political parties, including the MQM, ANP and the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam, were patriotic and joint action would be taken against anti-state elements.
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Mr Malik said details about hideouts of miscreants in Karachi had been collected through the latest technology, including satellite. “Modern means are also being used to monitor the situation in the disturbed areas.”
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He said Rangers had been deployed in the affected areas, including Kati Pahari.
According to a notification issued by the Sindh Home Department, the additional power were given to Rangers under Rule 5-A of the Anti-Terrorism Act of 1997.
**Under the rule: “Any police officer, or member of the armed forces, or civil armed forces, who is present or deployed in any area may, after giving sufficient warning, use the necessary force to prevent the commission of terrorist acts or scheduled offences, and in so doing shall, in the case of an officer of the armed forces or civil armed forces, exercise all the powers of a police officer under the code.
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http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/09/karachi-violence-continues-as-death-toll-rises-to-79.html
Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun
I personally think that uptil now its a ethnic clash between pashtuns and muhajirs in Karachi. Its a war to assert power in Karachi, maybe the muhajirs started feeling that their strength in Karachi is being challenged by pashtuns. Hence in 2008 we started witnessing the killings of random rikshawalas, and pashtun shopkeepers. Then the pashtuns started retaliating, the killings did not stop as mqm and anp were not serious in stopping them and ppp government had some more important things to do. This conflict can become very dangerous as many more anti state elements might jump in at some stage, and it could become a more complex and explosive situation than the 1990's.
Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun
exactly Ali ... other elements are taking advantage of this situation!!!
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
I heard that things have gotten better recently. I hope it continues. I hope there is proper operation against ALL terrorists disturbing the peace of the city.
No to all violence.
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
i really hope and pray that friday was the last day for all this violence!!anp and mqm need to put their ethnic and ego issues aside for once and all and hav mercy on Karachi!!!
re: Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]
ironically, at one same place one migrant thinks of other migrants as foreiger, wow.
thats the case in migrant countries like Australia, NZ, Canada, US etc too :)