Violence in Karachi [all threads merged]

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[note] Please use this thread to discuss issues related to situation in Karachi. [/note]

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

No matter what the reason of ANP not having NA seats, it is certain that Karachi has a much bigger influx of people from all over the country than any city in Punjab (or elsewhere). So it is wrong to say that no other city has this problem (and thus making MQM responsible). It is wrong because Karachi's flow of immigration is several times more than any other city.
The reason ANP does not have as many seats as the population is that most Pashtuns here are not registered voters in Karachi. They are registered in their birthplaces. If they make their domicile from Karachi then they will have voting rights in Karachi too.

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Think of humanity and think of God.
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I would advice you the same. If the truth makes one uneasy then please don't ask the question.
This started because someone started putting blame of Karachi violence solely on MQM.

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

And who blamed this fresh wave of violence on ANP?

You missed the whole point of that post. The point was that Taliban are responsible for the current wave of violence in Karachi.

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MQM did not start this fight. The truth is not your imagination. There are Taliban who issued fatwas against ALL Urdu speakers from their mosques and called them jews. Even ANP does not deny it.
So you can not distort the truth whatever way you like.

MQM has no advantage to be gained by throwing the city into chaos. Violence in Karachi can only cause trouble to MQM and its chances of getting new vote bank in the country.

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

I heard similar voices from Karachi from some friends, most of whom are not MQM supporters. I can endorse your views at least this time..

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

You are saying this because of your hatred alone.

It is actually ANP who plays double game when it comes to Karachi. There are hundreds of Taliban fasadis in Karachi who have come to hide. But ANP never acknowledged their presence. Even though there have been several Taliban operatives captured from Karachi … proving their presence.

If MQM is no enemy of Taliban then why are their members on the hit list of Taliban extremists?

http://www.sananews.net/english/2010/05/30/ttp-threatens-to-target-mqm /

KARACHI, (SANA): Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) threatened to attack Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM).

According to a message released from Taliban media center, Tehreek Taliban Pakistan has threatened to target MQM and its associated people declaring them responsible for target killing in Karachi and for the violation of law and order situation in country.

TTP in its message said, “Assault on Ahmedi worship places in Lahore is a right act”, while warned for more attacks on Ahmedis and law enforcement agencies.

According to Pakistani media reports, Umar asked Altaf Hussain - chief of the ethnic Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM) - to wind up his groups activities in the port city of Karachi. Pakistan’s financial capital would soon fall to the Taliban, Umar asserted, saying the fighters were awaiting Mehsud’s orders to storm the city.

We warn Altaf Hussain to stop issuing statements against Taliban and end his kingdom in Karachi, otherwise we will launch attacks against the MQM and its leaders once we are given the go-ahead by Mehsud, Faqir and Umar said.

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^^^

It's not only ANP my dear.. every political party in Karachi is giving refuge to criminal elements to strengthen their street fighting position. Public at large should get up against all these parties because they are the ones suffering in the end.. without discrimination of any party/ethnicity. karachi belongs to you guys.. not armed gangsters hiding behind the facade of political parties. Let's stop this blame game of ANP vs MQM vs PPP... each one of them are responsible.. and you guys should start condemning all of them and rise against all of them..

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

Actually it is the other way around. There are some people in Pakistan who are filled with hatred against Urdu speaking people. Their hatred is so much and so blind that even when there is a clear massacre happening of Urdu speaking people, even then they put the blame on Urdu speakers.

So much so that when it comes between Taliban khawarij and Urdu speakers then these hate-filled muta'assib people support Taliban.

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No one can disagree. My view is that violence should not be tolerated regardless of ethnicity. Anyone from any party for any reason, who engages in violence should be punished.
I think agencies need to increase the human intelligence among all communities in the city. They probably would need special units for Karachi alone.

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For me it's just:

Criminals Vs Innocent Citizens..

You are right.. it's the responsibility of the government to act against these criminals. They should start with acting against criminals hiding in their own ranks.. in this way other parties also will have no excuse of being specifically targeted..!!!

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Its so sad if ANP somehow involved in protecting or engaging Zaliman Fighters for nothing but just to get control of karachi, and for sure if these fasadies khawajies are in karachi they have no place to hide but places strong hold of ANP areas. They are ready to just do anything in which they can show some street power. so sad so bad

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun

Exactly, well said :k: :jhanda:

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yeah yeah yeah and you all never miss a chance to kill a mohajir.

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Army should intervene and take on MQM and ANP killers and traitors

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Clean up the rogue elements of ALL parties. If they could 'clean up' so many Muhajirs, I don't see why they couldn't rid the rogue elements.

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shabash, now learn from your own post and stop saying Karachi is not a Sindhi city.

I guess you missed the point by few miles.

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You did in previous posts by calling people from KPK as "foreigners".


Whether its okay or not is a separate issue, MQM has done nothing to improve that either.

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Yes, but that is because they are calling people with other passports as "foreigners", not people from different parts of their own country :)

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Re: Karachi problem is bw Taliban and Muslims. It is not bw Urdu speakers and Pashtun


Actually this statement goes two ways:

1) MQM is not happy they start violence
2) Govt is not happy that MQM is not with them they start killing in MQM's stronghold

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Why should I say that Karachi is a Sindhi city when it is not?
The only relation is that Karachi is in Sindh province politically. But culturally it is not a Sindhi city like Larkana.

If Khi is a Sindhi city because there are Sindhis here then it should also be called a Pashtun city, a "muhajir" city, a Baloch city, a Balti city, etc.
And that's what I am saying. Karachi belongs to all, and not one specific community.