Are you a Taliban?(Sarcasm)
Anybody who pastes anything against mqm automatically becomes a Taliban here. Typical Mqm strategy !
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Spock.. comprehension issues?
keyword: random. reread my post please.
Are you a Taliban?(Sarcasm)
Anybody who pastes anything against mqm automatically becomes a Taliban here. Typical Mqm strategy !
Anybody who pastes anything against Talibs automatically becomes a pro-MQM here. Typical BRNN (Bitter Reality News Network) strategy
Spock.. comprehension issues?
keyword: random. reread my post please.
Intelligence issues?
You are implying political workers are not involved in 'random' ethnic clashes. They are buddy, the MQM has trouble makers at grass root levels, and the ANP does too. When someone burns a bus belonging to some pashtun, he has some political backing and incentive to do so. Also, the police chief has clearly labelled this as an ethnic issue (random or not random), not some imaginary taliban or landmafia related.
Spock.. comprehension issues?
keyword: random. reread my post please.
Its not random , nothing came from the blues...it was well planned and masterminded
Do you know the difference between random and planned?
random is something without any warning, planning and well defined boundaries.....Sir G whats going on in karachi is not Random!
My info is very accurate - feel free to prove me wrong. Ask anyone from karachi on the power of the land mafia and what they have been doing the last couple of years - also ask them what ethnicity majority of land mafia belongs too.
So the police chief who thinks otherwise belongs to the Taliban too?
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MQM is denying its involvement and has made a mockery of itself by saying that this is some property clash...what a joker yaar!
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This is all very unfortunate. I remember the common belief back in the 90s was, when you go to Karachi "have a plan" because people were scared to death about who might rob them/kill them in broad daylight.
I recently heard a minister of PPP call for an operation in Karachi, saying that it might be the one solution and maybe used to disperse/catch the criminals. This was said on a talkshow with a representative of MQM present as well.
How many people actually favor an operation?
Intelligence issues?
You are implying political workers are not involved in 'random' ethnic clashes. They are buddy, the MQM has trouble makers at grass root levels, and the ANP does too. When someone burns a bus belonging to some pashtun, he has some political backing and incentive to do so. Also, the police chief has clearly labelled this as an ethnic issue (random or not random), not some imaginary taliban or landmafia related.
Ofcourse its an ethnic issue, problems in Karachi, esp involving MQM always are atleast ethnic, in addition to any of the optional financial/religious/political factors.
I am not implying that political workers arent involved in random clashes. The only point I was making was that two guys in the area we live in were gunned down. Had they been regular muhajirs or some pashtun, it wouldnt necessarily indicate planning, just the regular ethnic stuff that happens. Fact that they were both party workers *suggests *calculation.
talked to my folks yesterday, things were pretty bad. party workers were targetted apparently, so this isnt just a case of random ethnic violence. hopefully it doesnt spiral out of hand.
Its not random , nothing came from the blues...it was well planned and masterminded
Do you know the difference between random and planned?
random is something without any warning, planning and well defined boundaries.....Sir G whats going on in karachi is not Random!
I see, so its not ethnic violence? Then what is it? And why are all the major press authorities calling it ethnic violence? Why is the police chief calling it ethnic violence?
why do you guys argue even when you agree???
all of you are saying that it is not 'random' violence, but planned
This is all very unfortunate. I remember the common belief back in the 90s was, when you go to Karachi "have a plan" because people were scared to death about who might rob them/kill them in broad daylight.
I recently heard a minister of PPP call for an operation in Karachi, saying that it might be the one solution and maybe used to disperse/catch the criminals. This was said on a talkshow with a representative of MQM present as well.
How many people actually favor an operation?
Yes I favor an operation the same like General Retired Naseerullah Baber did...to disperse these terrorists
Ofcourse its an ethnic issue, problems in Karachi, esp involving MQM always are atleast ethnic, in addition to any of the optional financial/religious/political factors.
I am not implying that political workers arent involved in random clashes. The only point I was making was that two guys in the area we live in were gunned down. Had they been regular muhajirs or some pashtun, it wouldnt necessarily indicate planning, just the regular ethnic stuff that happens. Fact that they were both party workers *suggests *calculation.
So I can cite a personal example from a family member. Five Star at North Nazimabad, a popular (but cheap) spot for soft drinks belonging to ordinary pathans was lynched. It belonged to 'regular' pathans.
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when did this happen?
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right, so u start with some party workers on both sides and escalate it so it envelopes both communities, its targeted, planned, to have ethnic riots in the city, to what outcome we can only guess. All we can hope for is that saner heads prevail and ghundas of all shape size and groups are dealt with in the strictest possible way
know five star very well, was a popular place after cricket games in the cricket grounds by L block
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correct Mister Sinister, thats the feeling I have too.
I also think its calculated to derail the growing public support to deal with the militancy in the north once and for all. the smart thing for MQM/ANP both is to take whatever beating is coming their way for now.
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MQM is showing its true blackmailing colours now!
Police conspiring to launch 92-like operation: MQM - GEO.tv
"…The committee warned that MQM would take an extreme step if IG Sindh and CCPO Karachi were not removed.
The Rabita Committee further alleged that IG Sindh Salahuddin Babar had been patronizing the land and drug mafias in the city. No action was taken against the land and drug mafia despite the fact that they were identified, it said…"
Its really hilarious. They are in the provincial government and city government and still crying. MQM has stooped too low now, scoring political points at this critical time.
when did this happen?
2-3 Days ago, first day of the violence when the 30 people were killed.
right, so u start with some party workers on both sides and escalate it so it envelopes both communities, its targeted, planned, to have ethnic riots in the city, to what outcome we can only guess. All we can hope for is that saner heads prevail and ghundas of all shape size and groups are dealt with in the strictest possible way
know five star very well, was a popular place after cricket games in the cricket grounds by L block
Not really, one side starts it, other reacts. In this case, the other one is weaker, not in power, and its supporters poor and mostly uneducated.
^ what do you think the goal is?
2-3 Days ago, first day of the violence when the 30 people were killed.
i would presume that this would be when the violence broadened. you only need to trigger this, and let nature take its course after that.
^ what do you think the goal is? .
The elimination of Pakhtuns from Karachi altogether or crushing their strongholds in certain areas as the min., by sparking an armed conflict with them, shutting the international community up by calling them Taliban (something semi don/mayyyor mustaf kamal has been working on).
ill be back after a while to answer any further questions.