Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
haha @ earlybird.. typical.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
You seriously call that evidence you got to be kidding us. There is no fact or proof their was temple their and the link you provdied would not even be allowed into a kangeroo court. Archaeological survey of India which provided the bulk of evidence did not even provide a complete report and the ommitted graves of muslims and other evidences which prooved it belonged to the muslims. So why was that? if you can provide a pdf document to show why the ASI ommitted the muslim graves and evidence i would appreciate that thanks!
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
This argument whether there was a Hindu temple there or not is quite moot. babri mosque was only a few centuries old (14th or 15th century may be). Hindus have been worshipping in Ramjanambhoomi for ages before that and therefore the mosque has no business being there. Muslims in India know that and are heaving a big sigh of relief that the verdict gave them at least a piece. A purely judicial verdict will have awarded 100% to Hindus and that is not in the national interest. Hindus understood that and therefore heaved a sigh of relief too.
This for those living in Pakistan's current state inter-islamic-sect unrest/violence may be difficult to understand or handle.
Many Pakistanis today ask what the benefits of democracy are - here is an example. As Indians we were so proud that the verdic came out the way it did and the population across the board moved on.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
it was built on vacant stretch of land and not on any temple..hindus held same view for centuries till 1990's when radical hindu militant outfits such as BJP and Shivsena showed up and inorder to gain political support they floated this temple myth.Congress party of india also calls temple claim bogus and without any substance or foundation.
where did you come across the gem about this issue starting in the 1990's? Do you know there were suits filed even in the 1800's on this issue? Then again in the 30's or so? A little bit of googling will show you how wrong you are.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
You seriously call that evidence you got to be kidding us. There is no fact or proof their was temple their and the link you provdied would not even be allowed into a kangeroo court. Archaeological survey of India which provided the bulk of evidence did not even provide a complete report and the ommitted graves of muslims and other evidences which prooved it belonged to the muslims. So why was that? if you can provide a pdf document to show why the ASI ommitted the muslim graves and evidence i would appreciate that thanks!
this is nonsense. muslim graves don't prove it is muslim land. if someone can usurp a temple and go build a mosque there, it is obviously easy for them to go bury their dead as well.
frankly there is more real evidence that this is RJB than what you can provide as evidence for Kuran being Allah's word or anyother holy book being the word of respective God
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
where did you come across the gem about this issue starting in the 1990's? Do you know there were suits filed even in the 1800's on this issue? Then again in the 30's or so? A little bit of googling will show you how wrong you are.
i dont respond to multis
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
i dont respond to multis
whats a multi? if that is some sort of racial insult it just reflects on you.
When you lie the way you did about the issue being brought up only in the nineties, who cares whether you respond or not, I don't.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
this is nonsense. muslim graves don't prove it is muslim land. if someone can usurp a temple and go build a mosque there, it is obviously easy for them to go bury their dead as well.
frankly there is more real evidence that this is RJB than what you can provide as evidence for Kuran being Allah's word or anyother holy book being the word of respective God
You making no sense here tearing down a mosque on the basis it was allegedly a temple is from law of jungle. And then to see the so called supreme court of india reward extremists hindus with majority of the land is ridiculous it is like rewarding the criminal by giving him the the keys to the house he just robbed!
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Whichever idiot that tore down the temple that was there to build a mosque was the one that committed the sin and crime. Tearing down of the mosque simply provided belated justice to the people of the Hindu faith. Decades of legal case did not go anywhere and that made people take things into their own hands. This is a very human emotion.
If you think providing justice is the law of jungle, that will explain why Pakistan is in the state it is in now
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Whichever idiot that tore down the temple that was there to build a mosque was the one that committed the sin and crime. Tearing down of the mosque simply provided belated justice to the people of the Hindu faith. Decades of legal case did not go anywhere and that made people take things into their own hands. This is a very human emotion.
If you think providing justice is the law of jungle, that will explain why Pakistan is in the state it is in now
Belated justice to people of hindu faith????
the court case did not even address the destruction of the mosque nobody was charged with destroying it or bought to justice!
In all the comments so far no one can proove where is the justice of the indian system especially in this case it has prooved like the secular system it fails its minorites.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
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This particular verdicts is for a land-title case which was in Indian courts since 1960.
The Babri demolition is addressed in a criminal case which is still in courts.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
You making no sense here tearing down a mosque on the basis it was allegedly a temple is from law of jungle. And then to see the so called supreme court of india reward extremists hindus with majority of the land is ridiculous it is like rewarding the criminal by giving him the the keys to the house he just robbed!
You making no sense here tearing down a mosque on the basis it was allegedly a temple is from law of jungle. And then to see the so called supreme court of india reward extremists hindus with majority of the land is ridiculous it is like rewarding the criminal by giving him the the keys to the house he just robbed!
MR.it is very much clear that you have worlds best and farest courts of law in pakistan, who have punished those muslims who demolished hundreds of temples some more than 1000 yrs old.and those lands have been restored to their rightful owners in pakistan . ,in the aftermath of babri masjid demolition , as far as indian secular people are concerned ,i would like to quote late kanshi ram ji a leader of oppressed classes ,he said " that place should be used to build toilets for public use" and that represents the feelings of majority of indians .
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
MR.it is very much clear that you have worlds best and farest courts of law in pakistan, who have punished those muslims who demolished hundreds of temples some more than 1000 yrs old.and those lands have been restored to their rightful owners in pakistan . ,in the aftermath of babri masjid demolition , as far as indian secular people are concerned ,i would like to quote late kanshi ram ji a leader of oppressed classes ,he said " that place should be used to build toilets for public use" and that represents the feelings of majority of indians .
This topic is not about pakistan justice system or france justice system its about an issue regarding babri masjid and the indian justice system that is why i am questioning the indian justice system and outcome of this case.
As for building toilets in the place i don't think that is an intelligent outcome either. The outcome was a failure and not something anyone could call justice.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Indian court could have easily said the whole Ayodhya RJB is Hindu land but in my view took the better decision in the interest of the nation. If they had gone strictly by law, which does take into account established traditions into account, none of the land would have been allocated to the waqf board and that would have set of a major uprising.
So technically I view this as an arbitration-like verdict
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Indian court could have easily said the whole Ayodhya RJB is Hindu land but in my view took the better decision in the interest of the nation. If they had gone strictly by law, which does take into account established traditions into account, none of the land would have been allocated to the waqf board and that would have set of a major uprising.
So technically I view this as an arbitration-like verdict
Well, yes...and by the same token they could have demanded the reconstruction of the mosque. Clearly a political verdict.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Indian court could have easily said the whole Ayodhya RJB is Hindu land but in my view took the better decision in the interest of the nation. If they had gone strictly by law, which does take into account established traditions into account, none of the land would have been allocated to the waqf board and that would have set of a major uprising.
So technically I view this as an arbitration-like verdict
So if i destroy your house kick your family out and the court gives me 2/3 of the land would you call that justice?
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Belated justice to people of hindu faith????
the court case did not even address the destruction of the mosque nobody was charged with destroying it or bought to justice!
In all the comments so far no one can proove where is the justice of the indian system especially in this case it has prooved like the secular system it fails its minorites.
that is a different case which is still going on, this case is over 60 years old, demolition happned 18, 19 years ago,
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
Whichever idiot that tore down the temple that was there to build a mosque was the one that committed the sin and crime. Tearing down of the mosque simply provided belated justice to the people of the Hindu faith. Decades of legal case did not go anywhere and that made people take things into their own hands. This is a very human emotion.
If you think providing justice is the law of jungle, that will explain why Pakistan is in the state it is in now
it is not justice to Hindu faith, it is to see to that the rss-vhp and marginal right wing fools(both Hindus and Muslims) don't create further trouble in this country, the god Ram is just a incarnation and there are thousands of gods in India(including Jesus, Alla or anybody).
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
it is not justice to Hindu faith, it is to see to that the rss-vhp and marginal right wing fools(both Hindus and Muslims) don't create further trouble in this country, the god Ram is just a incarnation and there are thousands of gods in India(including Jesus, Alla or anybody).
It will be great if their is no violence and nobody else is killed and communities can live together in peace and move on.
But when people say this is fair outcome and this is justice then I think they are not telling whole truth. If person is unbiased and fair then i can't see how they could call that justice for destroying a mosque in this day and age.
Re: Verdict. Babri site to be split, Hindus to get 2/3, Muslims to get 1/3
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Javed Sahib,
How many times I have to clarify that this judgement is not about the destruction of the mosque ( which is being handled in a separate court case) but about a land dispute case that had been simmering for 100s of years.