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may i agian remind u the comments of zaffarullah qadyani...........plz rea the comment and dont change ur opinion so quickly....u believe him as a kaffir for he also disliked mirza.........
any way whats ur opinmion about zafarullah s words......do u agree with him........
a disese called bao bihari?........good idea.......kash aasee he koi khatarnak beemari mirzay ko ho jati ................kash us waqt bao bihari hota aur khus kam jahan pak kar daita......
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uss zamane mein kai bao bihari aye or 'khus kam jahan pak' karney ki bohat koshish ki.. magar you know what... Jiss ki Allah khud hifazat kare usko koi nuksaan nahee pohncha sakta....
"O mankind! hearken, this is the prophecy of God Who made the Heavens and the Earth. He will spread this Movement in all the countries and will give it supremacy over all through reason and arguments. Remember, no one will descend from heaven. All our opponents who are living at present will die and not one of them will see Jesus, son of Mary, descend from the sky and then their children who survive them will also pass away and none of them will see Jesus, son of Mary, coming down from the heaven. Generations of their posterity will also perish and they too will not see the son of Mary descending from heaven. Then God will create restlessness in their hearts; that the day of the glory of the Cross had passed away and the world had taken another turn but Jesus, son of Mary, had still not come down from the sky. Then all the wise people will discard this belief and the third century from today will not have completed when all those who had been waiting for Jesus, both Muslims and Christians will despair of his coming and entertaining misgivings shall give up their belief and there will be only one Faith in the world and one preceptor. I came only to sow the seed. That seed has been sown by my hands. It will now grow and blossom forth and none dare retard its growth. "
(The Promised Messiah in Tazkira-tush-Shahadatain)
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*Originally posted by bao bihari: *
may i agian remind u the comments of zaffarullah qadyani...........plz rea the comment and dont change ur opinion so quickly....u believe him as a kaffir for he also disliked mirza.........
any way whats ur opinmion about zafarullah s words......do u agree with him........
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Please give a link, your word isn't worth two sh1ts... i REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT JINNAH, WOULD EVER HAVE ANY OPPINION ON SUCH THINGS.
My friend you are difenetly a product of you genes... How have a I changed any opinion? Point is, you discust me and you dishonor Pakistan, so keep Pakistans name out of it.
And I need a credible source for your quote... Prefrebly from non Molvi or propaganda site.
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zafrullah........did he went there....definately the invitation was before saudi called mirzais kaffirs............now mirza tahir or his folllowers can go there? no ....even mirza could not go there.............
shame.........
what about the original topic ofthe thread...any more stories?.......
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Very sorry..........very sorry.
Hajj was banned first time in the history for Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) himself. After then the event of Sulah Hudabia took place.
Muhammad (PBUH) could not go for hajj at that time.
what you conclude in the light of your previous conclusion..???
Wonderfull best part. DO BELIEVE THAT MIRZA IS KAFFIR. this stamp must be there on everyone’s forehead who wants to enter in. … I am the daroghah of Jannat’s door No.1
In addition, if you really want to come inside: always hate other ppl. never try to seek knowledge. always consider yourself to be right. you do not need to explain any thing because you are real muslim. In Jannat, you will be given the responsibility to decide which muslim is a muslim and which muslim is kaffir. This responsibility shall be given to you for your outstanding performance of deciding who was kazzab and who was muslim when you was living in the earth.
:kaboom: MIRZA
yes it is some necessary to hate someone…but keep in mind we dont hate qaadianis as a person but we hate mirzait…if some reverts to islam…we all muslim will again consider him ihis brother…
yes near qayamah it will b written on the foreheads who is kafir who isn not…?..
dont compare mirza with hadrat MUHAMMAD sallahoalihaywasalam…mirza never wantd to go to makkah…
i wish i dont see thisstaement below my message…
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have u more funny stories, if yes, plz share with us
so whats the problem now?? he WANTED to go but he was warn from Mullahs in Saudi Land if u come, we will kill you, now tell me would you go unsolicited to a place to be killed???
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so whats the problem now?? he WANTED to go but he was warn from Mullahs in Saudi Land if u come, we will kill you, now tell me would you go unsolicited to a place to be killed???
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Can you please give me a reference that he was threatened at that time. According to some other Ahmadies he was not Told by Allah to go for Hajj.
so whats the problem now?? he WANTED to go but he was warn from Mullahs in Saudi Land if u come, we will kill you, now tell me would you go unsolicited to a place to be killed???
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I asked this in another thread too.. when was he threatened? This Suadi Govt was established in eary 20 th century when Mirza just prononced nawauwat.. so how come he never went there all his life.. Can u give example from even Mirza's writings that he was threatened to go to Saudia or Hajj?
^ if you can’t figure out what jihad means then maybe you should forgo the tenet. It would make lives safer for a lot of people around the world.
here is nother brilliant quote from the jihadis.
Are you ready to crush the Hindus between your teeth?" he shouts, and the entire crowd rises to its feet and says “Hanh,” the Urdu word for yes. “Are you ready to crush the Americans between your teeth?” he asks. “Hanh.”
Rallies such as this one, in towns and villages across Pakistan, show that jihadist parties such as Jamaat are alive and thriving, more than a year after they were banned by the government of President Pervez Musharraf.
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^ there is no religious precedence for this. In your land this is a god mandated rule. So there is huge difference.
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your arguement shows how such a wicked person you are...killing of innocent people is bad in every form and it should be condemned....as far as the religious fundamentalism is concerned....it must be fought....both the imperialist aggression and fundamentalist teror must be fought., else we perish...
your arguement shows how such a wicked person you are...killing of innocent people is bad in every form and it should be condemned....as far as the religious fundamentalism is concerned....it must be fought....both the imperialist aggression and fundamentalist teror must be fought., else we perish...
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He would never admit it.. he seens indian atricities as isolated incidences but believes and preaches that the whole Pakistan is aterrorist country.. every school is a madrassa, all Pakistanis are jihadis and mullahs.. check the statement all over Pakistan! :D
He would never admit it.. he seens indian atricities as isolated incidences but believes and preaches that the whole Pakistan is aterrorist country.. every school is a madrassa, all Pakistanis are jihadis and mullahs.. check the statement all over Pakistan! :D
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which part of religiously mandated actions like jihad don't you understand? What happened in India is sick and deplorable. There are no excuses for that. But there is no divine mandates where confusion in interpretation leads to making excuses for the very tenets that profess violence against non-believers and idolators and kafirs. that is the reality.
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which part of religiously mandated actions like jihad don't you understand? What happened in India is sick and deplorable. There are no excuses for that. But there is no divine mandates where confusion in interpretation leads to making excuses for the very tenets that profess violence against non-believers and idolators and kafirs. that is the reality.
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There are absolutely no devine mandate to kill anybody at all in Islam.. dont see too much FOX..their interpretation of Islamic faith is as credible asd their reporting..people who kill in Paksitan ahve same mandate as hindus marching to destroy Bari Mosque or kill in Gujrat.. The number is so small in Pakistan for those idiots that its hardly noticed in Pakistan..
^ Then why is there a call for jihad, mind you, not an internal struggle but more interms of violence. Is there something wrong with the message or the interpretation? The problem is not just there, it is in Philippines, Xinjiang, palestine, Russia, africa, even in the US. Divine scriptures are used to define political and often violent actions.
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^ Then why is there a call for jihad, mind you, not an internal struggle but more interms of violence. Is there something wrong with the message or the interpretation? The problem is not just there, it is in Philippines, Xinjiang, palestine, Russia, africa, even in the US. Divine scriptures are used to define political and often violent actions.
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Jihad means struggle.. and if someone attacks muslim has every right to defend itself .. but if u read Quran it clearly says go to battle but never transgress limits.. and thats beauty of Islam! that means no to kill innocents, women children or those who are not fighting with u.. its debateable what violence is? and what side of fence ur.. since in hatred and venom u r other side of muslims u will never see terrosrism of Israeli , Russian, Phillipine Chinese Govts in this regard.. The aspirations of these people against tyrrant Governments is right but some resort to violence by thie own personal experiences.. many of these lhad lost their family members and their actions come under revenge that is not part of Islamic teachings.. but ur interpretation of putting the whole populations in those lands in one category and saying they are terorists is deplorable.. vast majority just want justice as great injustice is being done by those governments..
