Fundamentalist organizations in NWFP like Dawat Tehrir, Hizbullah and Jaish Muhammad have distributed threatening letters to Ahmadis making specific demands and giving date and time by which these are to be met - or face dire consequences. Translation of excerpts from one such letter to Mr. Saleem Ahmad and his family, is produced below:
May Allah save this country from religous fanatics
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:smack: Now should one laugh or cry at such a statement from these organizations? What next? Your skin colour is too dark, we must kill you. You don’t speak Urdu with the proper accent - off with your head. You walk/talk/act funny - we must kill you.
A better form of jihad for these individuals, and for ALL of us (myself included) would be to help those in need… instead of issuing these stupid proclamations and wasting the paper they are printed on.
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Good to know you share the same philosophy of Jehad as we ahmadis do. Terrorism and Jihad in Islam
But Alas, when we give this argument, we are stamped as Munkireen of Jehad.
What I don;t understand is why isn't there a jihad against people like this? How come there is no fatwas against the likes of Jaish.
Mr fatehahmed, please could you explain your purpose of posting this, somehow I don't buy that statement, it's out of date by 2months and the authencity is definately questinable. So please could you shed some light.
^ unless you are devoid of any common sense or intelligence, which in your case is redundant, the reason for posting this is obvious. To highlight ther extention of which dogma by some people who know better than god themselves what makes a muslim. And how some people like you cater to them.
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What I don;t understand is why isn't there a jihad against people like this? How come there is no fatwas against the likes of Jaish.
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And I dont understand why Shiv Sena and Vishwa Hindu Parishad are there and not destroyed by majority of people of India..
Because they are flying planes into buildings and killing people from the Philippines to the US. You guys have the terrirism market pretty much covered… good job :k: And thereby you are in season!!!
SO do you denouce this edict by JeM or no?
If ur asking me ..yes we have equal share of idiots.. I have written so many times how these fanatics good for nothing goofs have transgressed and killed innocent Ahmadis and should be hanged ..
But as usual ur addressing muslims as "You guys have.. " Can I say u destroyed muslims sacrad worshiping place Babri Mosque and killed innocent muslims in Gujrat!
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^ unless you are devoid of any common sense or intelligence, which in your case is redundant, the reason for posting this is obvious.
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Interesting how you jump the gun and reply to my first line, I questioned the integrity of the statement(well the alleged statement) he's posted, where's the common sense and intelligence come into this?
If you are asking about how hindu racist are related to this thread then you are out of luck. I don’t think the dogs of RSS, Shiv Sena or VHP have any relationships with jaish e Mohammad. But do you?
Do you agree or can ask you mullah in pak to decare a jihad against JeM because they very easily declare Jihad against Ahmadis. PLease help elucidate.
You can alternatively open a thread on VHP, RSS and Shiv Sena and compare their monstrocitties to the Islaimsts around the world and we can compare volumes of destruction, platforms of infuence and the various terrorist watch lists they are on.
thanks much Degoo 
P.S. What do you want me call you . “us guys”? I don’t belive in your idiotic inerpretation of ISlam so I will refer to as “you guys” .
The reason why dont anybody wage jihad on these extremists in Pakistan is similar to why dont Hindus in India wage war against those RSS and Vishwa nad Prasad! These 2 are same-their religion is hate and killing..
As a hindu ur quick to jump and ask us a question us why cant we ask the same from u?
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P.S. What do you want me call you . "us guys"? I don't belive in your idiotic inerpretation of ISlam so I will refer to as "you guys" .
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And how did u jusde from any of my posts that I believe in terrosrists like OBL? Can u provide a single link! Ur in a habit of trying to link anybody who dont agree as terrorists or their sympathizers..
Great degoo!! declare the edict by JeM as disgusting and declare a jihad on them. Why is that you guys cba decalre a jihad on the rest of the world but the people who you disagree with, as you are saying, within your fold?
Oh and the day that VHP and Shiv Sena ge on the US terrorism list, I will gladly join in lambasting them. Aferall, I pay taxes here and live here and wouldn't want my contributions to the motherland going to the wrong types of resources.
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But she’s probably unaware of that threat that has been posted is most likely a typical ahmadi fabrication ie lies, deception and manipulation. You ahmadi’s were telling me not to post links and copy/paste, I’d like fatehahmad to prove the autenticity of this threat, as far i know he could have just wrote that.
Check my previous replies I have already said that.. now u go and kill those Vishwanad Prashad and RSS guys.. shabash
^ so a a pious muslim should be happy that peole fro the phiippines to India to Israel to Europe to the US are killing/Catching these a-holes and taking care of the problem right?
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**But she's probably unaware of that threat that has been posted is most likely a typical ahmadi fabrication ie lies, deception and manipulation. You ahmadi's were telling me not to post links and copy/paste, I'd like fatehahmad to prove the autenticity of this threat, as far i know he could have just wrote that.
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Dear Rally, Why don't we wait for Fateh Ahmad to appear in this thread and then provide a link for this. As far as i am concerned, i believed it immediately because the declaration that they are "duty bound to kill" Ahmadis, sounds quite similar to what i have heard from other Muslims who feel quite strongly about Ahmadis/Qadiyanis. Incidentally, before i came on Gupshup, i wasn't even aware who Ahmadis were, (i thought they were a group of people whose last name was Ahmadi). Subsequent to reading some of the posts here, i really am shocked at some of the comments directed towards them... Anyways, let's just wait for Fateh Ahmad to enter this thread and offer his response.
Mr. Rally:
Do you need the authentication of my post. Why don't you go ahead and call SHO Peshawar University and ask him about it.
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^ so a a pious muslim should be happy that peole fro the phiippines to India to Israel to Europe to the US are killing/Catching these a-holes and taking care of the problem right?
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Yes. and how did India came in all this?