'tum' yaa 'aap'

[Rukhsarbibi]

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@larki

hmmmm thanks for explaining it. i still prefer “mein”, less confusing and nicer…you know, instead of saying something like “hum ja rahain hai” which sounds plural, “mein jarahi hoon” sounds singular.

I like using hum sometimes That’s when the hubby makes fun of me :-p

[Faisal]

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"Hamm" was traditionally used by kings and people in power to show that it is not just their personal opinion, but the decision of their nation/community etc, for example, a king saying "hamm ne faysla kiya hai, ke hamm apni fojein angrezouN se jang ke liyay bhaijein ge". Its irrelevant if the decision is taken by just the badshah salamat or the entire cabinet, because thats the beauty of dictatorship and monarchy.

However, as Fraudia mentioned, some families, especially those with royal blood (like Mughals) or those with excessive formalities (like those from Lukhnow etc) still use "hamm" to refer to themselves. Those who are not used to it, can make a lot of fun on their account, as Rukhsar mentioned (e.g "so how many are you?" or "ok, so I know you are fat, but really....!")

[Rukhsarbibi]

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@funguy

^ I know. It sounds so full of it…even an element of narcism.

the people that I know use it, it sounds really sweet and polite from their mouths. Not narcissistic at all!

[funguy]

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^ are AAP married too? sub married ho gaeiy hain. Sirf HUM bachay. Hum, yaani mai aur Femme.

[larki]

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wow this is all very interesting! thanks to all of you for explaining.

[CheGuvera]

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@larki

i didn’t know “hum” is the polite word for “mein”…

i don’t know if any of you know french but the whole “aap”/“tum” deal is similar with “vous”/“tu” pronouns, which is nice.

Hum, is more of a royal “We” then a polite reference to yourself…

[Miss_Mohabbat]

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@funguy

Would you be offended as a man if your wife addressed you as ‘tum’ and not ‘aap’? This friend of mine had a big fight with his wife who addresses him as ‘tum’ in public. She was raised in the UK and explains it has nothing to do with lack of respect as this is how she addresses her mother too. But this guy is making a big deal out of it. I wanna slap him.

what has her being raised in the UK got to do with this?

If im speaking urdu with anybody, regardless of age, its always been “app” “tum” sounds a bit wierd.

It’s the punjabi version that gets me…“tu” yah “tussi” ??

[ashtray]

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My girl-cousins from karachi addressed my dogs as aap

[aishaA]

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Jusht espeak in angrazi... no problem

[aishaA]

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@ashtray

My girl-cousins from karachi addressed my dogs as aap

what did they address you as?

[funguy]

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BaRRay waalay aap

[Pinstripe_Danda]

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@aishaA

what did they address you as?

Voh

[ashtray]

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bhai jaan

[ahmadjee]

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reminds me of the shyair

Har aik ba'at pay kehtay ho tum Kay tu kia hay
Tumhee kaho kay yeh andaz-e-guftugu kia hay

[Mahnoor]

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'aap' is so gay. I prefer 'oye'

[funguy]

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^ My kinda gal

[Rukhsarbibi]

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@Mahnoor

‘aap’ is so gay. I prefer ‘oye’

haha! I use that too w/ close friends and husband It is a lot of fun saying Oaay!

[Rukhsarbibi]

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@funguy

^ are AAP married too? sub married ho gaeiy hain. Sirf HUM bachay. Hum, yaani mai aur Femme.

you mean hum (you) and tum (femme). I think of you guys as virtually married right now. Why bother w/ the I-do’s that brings in the whole pre-nup thing.

[cat-woman]

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If there's a significant age difference, I guess I would refer to my husband as 'aap', but what if he's the same age as me? I think it would be funny referring to him as 'aap' then. My dad refers to my mum as 'tum' and my mum uses 'aap' - it all sounds very sexist now that I think about it.

[Mahnoor]

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@Rukhsarbibi

you mean hum (you) and tum (femme). I think of you guys as virtually married right now. Why bother w/ the I-do’s that brings in the whole pre-nup thing.

LOL I been trying to tell them that. Rukhsar, when did you get married? Whats up with everyone getting married? Am I the only one who is not up for it.