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ak47......
Correction.
Was Native Americans that initiated idea of scalping.
Yes. You are right that blacks were lynched.
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Thank you for correction
but i should also be corrected by saying that the Native Indians were wiped out systematically on a massive level and there land totally stolen!
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New Details of Prison Abuse Emerge
*Hilas also said he witnessed an Army translator having sex with a boy at the prison. He said the boy was between 15 and 18 years old. Someone hung sheets to block the view, but Hilas said he heard the boy’s screams and climbed a door to get a better look. Hilas said he watched the assault and told investigators that it was documented by a female soldier taking pictures.
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Absolutely disgusting. I feel sick.
For how long will Muslims in positions of power stay silent? What have they said, if anything, regarding this?
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"I said to him, 'I believe in Allah.' So he said, 'But I believe in torture and I will torture you.'"
He said one soldier struck his broken leg and ordered him to curse Islam.
"Because they started to hit my broken leg, I curse my religion," the paper quoted him as saying. "They ordered me to thank Jesus I'm alive."
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Does taking Jesus' name while sodomizing iraqi prisoners make them christian terrorists?
It hurts me to see how many voilent freaks the religion of Christ has spawned.
Christian fundos always ponder, "What would Jesus do"? Is that what Jesus would do?
Depraved and evil.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43783-2004May20_2.html
One day, the detainee said, American soldiers held him down and spread his legs as another soldier prepared to open his pants. “I started screaming,” he said. A soldier stepped on his head, he said, and someone broke a phosphoric light and spilled the chemicals on him.
“I was glowing and they were laughing,” he said.
The detainee said the soldiers eventually brought him to a room and sodomized him with a nightstick. “They were taking pictures of me during all these instances,” he told the investigators.
Mohanded Juma Juma, detainee No. 152307, said he was stripped and kept naked for six days when he arrived at Abu Ghraib. One day, he said, American soldiers brought a father and his son into the cellblock. He said the soldiers put hoods over their heads and removed their clothes.
Then, they removed the hoods.
“When the son saw his father naked he was crying,” Juma told the investigators. “He was crying because of seeing his father.”
The worst part of this scandal is that many of these detainees were later let go after all this torture, meaning they were neither terrorists nor were deemed a threat to the US forces; and were brought either by mistake or just for the heck of it. And then some Americans (esp in their Congress) try to justify these acts by saying these people are there for a reason and should be treated harshly. Pathetic.
May 20, 2004
WASHINGTON – A military intelligence analyst who recently completed duty at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq said Wednesday that the 16-year-old son of a detainee there was abused by U.S. soldiers to break his father’s resistance to interrogators.
Pass these animals over to the Iraqis they abused and let them do what they will with them, these slugs aren't even human.
underthedome,
I hope you mean rumsfeld and bush too and all the other pro-war dehumanising filth in the media and elswhere in america that formed the base of this evil ‘pyramid’
They should be brought to justice, the whole idea of mob violence led to this war and the bombing of afghanistan let’s not fall into that insanity again.
Let international courts judge one and all but hey check this out:
U.S. seeks new exemption from war-crimes tribunal
Pathetic!
I supported the removal of Saddam, there is no fault in that.
Underthedome,
Why? Was he threatening you or your family or anyone you knew, why all the concern for Iraqi's before the war? Saddam, what about other dictators and regimes the US is supporting all around the world today?
The war was about terrorism and WMD, it was hastily juggled to regime change some time on, okay saddam went, then mass murder carried on. So everyone the US is killing and toturing is innocent? No WMD, regime changed, must be innocent right?
What about Algeria, where the US backed regime slaughtered 10 000 in the last decade? What about Uzbekistan what about Suharto why did the US support his terror for decades.
This is not about regime change and not about you being hoodwinked, I know most people are good people but all people need to be honest people.
Removal of Saddam along with proper post-war plans could defuse much of the hatred the Arab world has for the U.S. It was in the interest of the United States to remove Saddam as well as the Iraqis.
Siht I feel safer in NYC since we toppled Saddam, dunno how it is houston.
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How much progress have you made in removing the Iraqis?
I was just watching the BBC World News. They were interviewing people outside of the White House. One guy said something along the lines of supporting Bush 100% (which is fine) and not understanding why people can’t put this Iraq abuse scandal behind them. He wondered why do people keep harping on about it. This comment made my draw drop.
I hope to God the average American does not think like this. You just cannot ignore things like this abuse scandal. That’s like asking Americans to forget about 9/11.
With proper post war plans I believe a lot of headway would be made Faisal.
underthedome,
Again, why all the concern for the iraqis and not the algerians or uzbeckistanis or the kurds in Turkey.
How was saddam affecting you in US, you personally.
Why the sanctions for a decade, making millions of people suffer for what, how did that help you personally that you made the personal choice to support a war?
Why don't you support a war in algeria against your governemetns interests to remove a brutal regime?
This war in Iraq was sold to you and the army, the iraqis were demonized, all of them not just saddam. How dare they fight back when they are being occupied, they deserve to be treated like animals. The pictures above are testimony to this.
“The abuse came during Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting and reflection. The abused Iraqis, Sivits said, had been suspected of taking part in a prison riot that day. They were held at Abu Ghraib on suspicion of common crimes, not attacks on U.S. forces, said Col. Marc Warren, the top legal adviser to Iraqi commander Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez.”
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Though, I’m sure those dead bodies had plenty of intelligence value also…
U.S. Foreign policy is based on what’s best for the United States. For every policy there are rewards and consequences and it must pick and choose what battles its going to fight (politically and physically) by weighing the rewards gained vs. the consequences achieved through these policies. One eye should look at the present situation, one eye on its future, and a third on the past as to remind it what has work at what has failed before. The Current Administration had all eyes on the future leading us to where we are today.