Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
BY reality...the world around us. The fact that more countries are democratic now than ever before, the fact that globalization based on market economies is growing every year..the fact that indivudals in democraic countries tend to live better lives now than ever under the caliphate( compare HDI numbers)..the fact that more innovation happens in democratic countries in the last 100 years, led by the US then is all of human history....I cna go on...
Let me put it to you in simple terms. I hear all about this golden resource, the oil, that is in the middle east and how that can bring the west to its knees. Or the kaffirs (Indians and Chinese for that matter). Now let's talk reality...to control, develop to extract (I am not even talking refining and distribution to where it is needed) capital costs are around $8B a year in middle east. As China and India grow, it will cost around $45B/y in 10 yrs time. If muslims got together and and spent $45b, with an increasin gpopulation in the muslim world and real incomes going down, how are they going to fund developing their greatest asset. This means..no education, food, medical care for the arabs and even Pakistanis (should they choose to be part of this pie in the sky dreamworld called Khilafah)
Tell me genuis...if the biggest markets inthe world don;t buy your siht are you going to feed oil to the evergrowing populations of arabia?
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
MOA240 for Caliphate to succeed and come back All muslims need to agree, they cant seem to agree on Eid ka Chaand, let alone this stupid idiotic concept of caliphate.
What will be the national sport of Islamic Kingdom, Camel racing.
Who will succeed the Caliph in case of death, His son.
Will the new Caliph allow more than 4 wives, you bet.
Will all prisoners (rapists, molesters etc) be freed during new democratic elections, no because there is no such thing as democracy in GS form of Islam.
Will all prisones be freed if Pakistan won Cricket match with India and the Caliph happens to be a Paki (long shot), you bet.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
Pinstripe Baby,
Your analysis is right on. Add in an exploding population of young people, many in the Middle East who will not work less than executive job. A huge employment population from other countries who must be paid to run Middle Eastern countries, and you basically have a bankrupt society, financially. Despite all of the oil that has been pumped out of the Middle East, Gulf States have not assembled enough capital to even fund their own capital needs to bring up the oil. Oil produced declines every year and no new significant oil discoveries have been produced in the Middle East since the 1950s. Add to that the fact that most of the oil wealth in the Middle East comes out of only four large fields, and you have a dire circumstance.
None of this would make a difference if other goods and products were being developed to replace the oil in the Middle East economy. That of course is not happening.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
What all of it has to do with Islam? Most democratic countries of West that have progressed are Christian nations. Judeo-Christian-Islam has basic philosophy and belief system. So are you saying that Christian system has also been proven substandard and atheists are running those democratic countries? Islamic system wasn’t meant for some particular time or age. It’s a way of life NOT hard set of rules for economics of 6th century. Islamic system can’t be blamed for the action of today’s Muslims.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
Of course I am right OG, I haven't been wrong since 1978..I was eight..she was 12..well I digress... :)
You can build cars or blow them up...it is a choice..khilafabobs like explosions..instead of internal combustion engines. They ar few but loud in the muslim world and are afforded shelter and even aided by the those who know they are in the wrong from a logic perspective, because of one cardinal principal...Blind Faith...which drives religious thuggery and consequently dissatisfaction of the existing paradigms as they ar ein direct conflict with what the blind faith prescribes.
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Really japan is a christian nation? S Korea? IN twenty years, China/India…they ar e all judeo christian nations?
You may have missed the points others had about separation spirituality from governance..separating sprituality from economics…those who have bene able to do that..have excelled. That is the proven model…If Islam precludes muslims from separating the two then..sowwy…it is a failed system.
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I didnt give Sweden’s example. What about China, most pakistanis here would side with China any given day, theres even little support for the muslim rebellion going on there.
China is probably as, or more, important a power player in south asian and east asian politics as America. Tell me why Muslims dont resent the Chinese.
Once again, theres richer and more powerful places in the world from a Muslim’s immediate frame of reference. Like I said in another thread, what a lot of americans do is contrive reasons for why they’re disliked around the world, and with so many varied reasons for each individual country/nation that at some point it just gets a little hard to imagine how they can believe those reasons.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
^ chanda in 20-30 years, China will be going after muslims resources just as much as the muslim world accuses US of. new boogey man...china right now can't even take over taiwan which is wihtin eyesight, when it starts spreading its influence in arabia by taking over companies and provding capital for feeding its energy needs, it will do so on its terms..so will India. If the muslim world thinks they had problems with their cousins...they are in for a rude awakening when the Kaffirs come a-callin.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
Much of what is being said about this new found secret to global power, democracy, had also been said of communism, and even the Roman, British and (gasp) Ottoman empires. Alas, history has proven them wrong too. How immature and short sighted to declare a system a failure after a mere 100 years or so of decline.
That's the problem, people don't think beyond their lifetime, a mistake proven costly by the very history you trumpet now. The US is currently on a decline on all fronts, economically and politically. The supposed economics/finance experts here should know that better than anyone else.
So fasten your seatbelts, or you might just fall from the bandwagon right back on your ass.
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Democracy has been around and evolving since the times of the greeks..it is not an american phenomenon..same as capitalism. It is more human than anyother thing ever thought of..in the future should something else come about and offer better paradigms for governance and economics then great…it won’t be something from the past tho…those are failed systems..be it khilafaism, communism, nazism..etc etc..
And I am waiting for the gurus here to tell me when exactly US is going down..your wishfull thnking isn’t exactly backed up by any logic or numbers. I asked your buddy CM and abdali over 3 months ago when they were motuhing off about some data to back up their assertions…I put up the GS (not gupshup) BRICS report as backup…they ran away never to come back. Maybe you cna tke it up as a challenge..until then..pipe down son.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
Given how China deals with its insolent Muslim population, you’ve asked a very good question. Why don’t Muslims resent the Chinese? Certainly, as between China and the US, Muslims are much freer and more secure in their practice of religion and their exercise of human rights in the US. So why don’t the Muslims resent the Chinese?
Maybe it’s because of those high-tech weapons the Chinese are more than happy to sell to the Muslims. Maybe it’s because the Chinese will be glad to support the Muslims in the UN when it’s the Jews and the US in the spotlight as long as they remain free to slaughter their own Muslims at home.
Maybe it’s because of how little the Chinese are resented by Muslims notwithstanding the brutal oppression of Muslims in China that we Americans need to “contrive” reasons for why we are resented. Frankly, the Muslim embrace of China makes no sense at all.
Re: Top Ridiculous Anti-Muslim Rumors in the Redneck America
This isn't Iraq vs USA, where someone goes down pretty fast. It would be naive to think that one fine day we wake up and the US is no more. However, an ailing economy, costly wars and rising defecit and unemployment are not good signs. But who knows? Might take another century before the panic buttons are pressed. I, for one, won't certainly hold my breath.
