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Naughty By Nature
the topic you have chosen is an excellent 1with reference to the incidents that occur in daily life .. people sugar coat everything and there are many hidden flaws in this .
but pointing to some1 is not at all liked by Allah .. and i’m sure you will have to answer for this .
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Ha ha ha, So other gf's have bf's(and thats why they have lost their beauty), but impulse has a fainc'ee without an engagemnet ceremony(thus the beauty).
Wait till I tell my Guy that he's recently become my Fiancee without even him knowing about it. lol
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Like I said [or maybe i didnt 
] everyone has theirown definition fo a bf/gf..
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don’t you know better than to point out any “flaw” of hers? she’s like perfect! Shes artistic and talented and beautiful and smart and ohhhh sooo pure since shes not ugly since she has a bf lolz.. how dare you call her a hypocriet :biggthumb
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^pagal, i didn’t call her a hypocrite, lol. Khair now that you have mentioned it, i would add that to the list as well.
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there is a diffeence between hiding a relationship and having one out in the open with everyones' approval
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yeah its called approve it [my relatipnship bcoz OMG he's hot and i want to check the temperature]or i'd have ur sorry BUTT deported back to the hole u came out from
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that is not what i meant saieen, your being negative there
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I think this is quite a sensitive subject for some people but I'm honest about what happened to me....
I met a guy at work…fell in love. I told my family and he told his.
A few months later his parents came around my house to ask for my rishta. My parents really got on with them and also really liked him. At the moment we are in the middle of planning the wedding.
But until then we still see each other and I know it's really bad but if it was up to us we would have got married ages ago with a small nikkah and a few people, but if we did that our relatives would never accept it. I don't care about them but my parents do so it has to be a reasonably bigish wedding for which we are saving up for.... that's why it's taking longer.
I know it is wrong that we meet without a mehram and I feel bad but I just hope Allah understands that we have no wrong intentions.
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mywish i so wish i had a boyfriend boyfriend 
atleast i would have some places to go over weekends 
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City girl, no onew has the right to dictate what's right or wrong to anyone else... we are discussing a totally different thing here.
Nia, trust me, its not worth it. Too much headcahe for the sake of free food and the pest that comes with the free food gives you indigestion anyway. You are better without one.
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yes, after all a husband is nothing else than a bf who can pay your bills and inherit from you:D
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^ 
perfect Noor
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don’t be stupid okay? husband is alot differnet than a boyfriend, maybe better maybe worse, depends on one’s view.. 
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how is engagement unislamic?
wasn't Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) engaged to Ayesha (peace be upon her) for period of time (i think,2 years)??
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don't wana make this thread more than it is...but guys do it too. my cousin refuses to call his chic his girlfriend. go figure it out.
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Lol ok...iv been gone for a few days and there seem to be attacks been launched at me left right and centre...
Ok first of all i stick to everything i said...like i said to you in your PM Impulse...my intention was not to upset you...you criticised the idea of a boyfriend in another thread and spoke about fiances and stuff...
I'll say it again...there is no such thing as an engagement in Islam and neither are you allowed to speak on the phone without mehram present...thats free mixing...you are either married which you arent or you have a boyfriend...your getting offended because i use a word you dont like but thats the reality...you say Allah knows what your relationship is...i agree with you...Allah doesnt recognise engagements and doesnt accept phone conversations...your families may recognise it but Allah most definitely doesnt...
Everyone has limits to what they do in a relationship...a guy at my uni has to suffice with speaking to his girlfriend on the phone most of time because he doesnt see her...for some limits are hugging...for some limits are kissing...for some its sex...everyone has their own limits of what they do in a relationship but it is that...its a relationship isnt it?...
**AngelEyes **thankyou for dealing with my thread in a rational manner...what you say is absolutely correct...the only reason people speak about fiances to look better to people...this hijabi has had her fiance for two years lol...but will lecture me for the way i do things...we both sin...its just i can admit it...
And to **Sara **and others who think its ok if you intend to get married...your copping out...You say that you study them before you get married...thats how any relationship works...girl im seeing seems like someone i see a future with...but that doesnt mean what i do is acceptable by any means...my friend is getting married to his girl after uni...but that doesnt detract from the fact that the five years they have spent have been in sin...
And Nia i expect better...i dont open up threads for the sake of it...if i disagree with something then ill post it...i dont like sugarcoating...
you lot bring up Islam all the time but please realise that by talking about fiances, phone conversations and 'we're getting married' doesnt hold weight with Allah(swt)...Its sin so stop criticising others who do the same but have different limits...you speak to your boyfriend on the phone its sin...you hug your girlfriend sin...sex your girl its a sin...if you bring up Islam bring it up properly...
You seem to pick and choose what suits you...your not supposed to talk to guys and your not supposed to listen to music for instance...im not saying dont do it...just please dont suggest that Allah is happy with that...If you really fear Allah then listen to him properly...dont just do what suits you and avoid what doesnt suit you...
you're not allowed to free mix before marriage...just cos your parents know about it doesnt make it ok...
Im sorry if i seem like im persoanlly attacking people...but please dont sugarcoat things to make them look more acceptable to people...
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I don’t think there were any personal attacks at YOU 
And I think i kinda siad the same thing angeleyes did, that alot will say that to save their reputation.. . 
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you lot bring up Islam all the time but please realise that by talking about fiances, phone conversations and 'we're getting married' doesnt hold weight with Allah(swt)...Its sin so stop criticising others who do the same but have different limits...you speak to your boyfriend on the phone its sin...you hug your girlfriend sin...sex your girl its a sin...if you bring up Islam bring it up properly...
You seem to pick and choose what suits you...your not supposed to talk to guys and your not supposed to listen to music for instance...im not saying dont do it...just please dont suggest that Allah is happy with that...If you really fear Allah then listen to him properly...dont just do what suits you and avoid what doesnt suit you...
you're not allowed to free mix before marriage...just cos your parents know about it doesnt make it ok...
Im sorry if i seem like im persoanlly attacking people...but please dont sugarcoat things to make them look more acceptable to people...
what are you doing on this site? you're mixing with girls and talking freely. according to what you said above, its haram dont u know that?
you yourself admit you have a gf, who are you to tell anyone anything....about their relationship?
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Impulse
Yes i do have a girlfriend...and i will admit she is my girlfriend...i wont say stupid things like she is my fiance or i intend to get married to her just to feel a bit more holy...i know that i sin...but hey atleast i admit it...I like girls and i do what i do...i dont say what i do is acceptable...
Your not that much different from me...we both sin...we just do it in different ways...but you will criticise me for having a girlfriend...and poke your nose at gf/bf relations when you do exactly the same thing...
Even now you poke your nose at me for committing haram...ill agree with you...i just want you to admit that you do that aswell...
The idea of a fiance or someone i want to get married to is a joke...its something to make you feel better about yourself and hide the fact that you sin...now i get on well with my girlfriend...have fun what not...and can view a future...i might aswell label her my fiance cos in your worlds that automatically eliminates sin...
Sara
You suggested that it was ok if they intended to get married...i think thats nonsense...my best friend is with his girlfriend for the last 5 years...they will get married when he finishes uni next year...to some on this site thats fine...but he will happily admit hes been sinning for five years...
ENDS DONT JUSTIFY THE MEANS IN ISLAM