Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
Since you're only basing this view on your observation (like you say) so your own observation can only take you upto a certain point because you can only observe a small number of people and not saari desi duniya unless you've done surveys. Hence as I originally said your statement is nothing more than generalisation.
But we can never ever get any survey done on this topic. Similarly, we can also not conclude on the comments made by desi guys that they will not leave their fiancee after such incidents. Their true behaviour and attitude can only be known if God forbids such incidence happens. And the behaviour and reaction of guys depend on socio-economic classes of the society as pointed out by NomiCA. If anyone knows about one guy who hadn't leave his fiancee, he was truly a gem but that doesn't mean all the desi men would do the same. Similarly, if someone heard a guy left his fiancee, he also doesn't represent the majority.
Talking and doing are two different things. Majority of single desi men still would like to go for never married girls (although there is no survey done and there are exceptions to this, we still know this attitude in desi men exists).
So this is very difficult question. Because of greater awareness and education levels, our society has started to act maturely towards such incidents and things will further get better with time hopefully.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
but you said the following too
So what if divorced men are getting unmarried girls of 18-19?? divorced men are not freaks…secondly the girls face shortage of rishta too…so if they go for a divorced man…whats wrong with it???
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
Yes. So I am basing my views on the usual behaviour of desi guys and their family over girls they want to get married. Now how can ‘love’ change that behaviour and views, I am not sure of. May be love has such power that the guy can ignore that his fiancee has been raped We can only assume as this is a very hypothetical situation. Allah Swt sab ko aisi situation se bachai Ameeen.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
So what if divorced men are getting unmarried girls of 18-19?? divorced men are not freaks...secondly the girls face shortage of rishta too......so if they go for a divorced man.........whats wrong with it???
This will be off topic and should be started in a new thread. Girls marrying divorced guys is nothing wrong. But the desire of divorced men to marry ONLY never married girls is pathetic. They say if they are getting never married girls, why should they go for divorced girls. And no, I haven't done any survey and this is JUST my observation :D
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
Allah Swt sab ko aisi situation se bachai Ameeen.
Ameen!
So what if your boyfriend or fiance told one of you girls that he would leave you if you ever got raped? would u stay with him even though u havent been raped but simply becasuse that ideology bothers u?
also, why is rape such a big deal in our culture? if its beyond girls control, why are they so punished???
thanks to everyone for the replies, i enjoyed reading everyones answers :)
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
also, why is rape such a big deal in our culture? if its beyond girls control, why are they so punished???
i dnt think this is limited to the desi community.
its unfortunate that the victim not only gets raped but her whole life suffers cuz of it whether it be her marriage or her mental state. as to why? well this is life. nxt we wl say why r some people born with disabilities? why shud they suffer? we hve all such kinds of things in life which we think r unfair, but that' God's way of testing people n mind you not only the victims bt also those who deal with them and how.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
Can we do a survey on GS?
I don't think the replies will truly represent the reaction of desi guys. Josh main aaker majority yehi kahain ge k they will never leave their fiancee after she becomes a rape victim. Their reaction can only be truly known if this incidence happens in reality (I hate myself for saying this again and again but I hope people get my point). Some things and reactions in life you just cannot predict and can only know when the time comes. We cannot predict in advance how we will react after anything bad happens.
People may or may not agree with me. Just my opinion.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
I don't think the replies will truly represent the reaction of desi guys. Josh main aaker majority yehi kahain ge k they will never leave their fiancee after she becomes a rape victim. Their reaction can only be truly known if this incidence happens in reality (I hate myself for saying this again and again but I hope people get my point). Some things and reactions in life you just cannot predict and can only know when the time comes. We cannot predict in advance how we will react after anything bad happens.
People may or may not agree with me. Just my opinion.
yeah i agree with you, like you mentioned before, harsh realities of life..just makes me sad to think about it =/
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
But rapes don't normally happen with people of good socio-economic backgrounds? Do they? Rape victims usually belong to the middle/ lower class in Pakistan and I haven't heard any girl in Defence Khi being raped. The news channels from Pakistan usually give such news from small cities or villages. High class girls in Pakistan engage in 'such' activites with their own free will and don't get raped I guess.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
it doesnt matter what you have heard or what you havent heard
rape knows know class, religion, cast, or age. Majority of these rapes are committed by someone you know, within your family circle, ur friend circle, where you shop most often, someone from your college etc. since rich people don't exactly live in seclusion, they are just as likely to become rape victims as someone from a middle/lower class background
i'm surprised you didnt know that
But rapes don't normally happen with people of good socio-economic backgrounds? Do they? Rape victims usually belong to the middle/ lower class in Pakistan and I haven't heard any girl in Defence Khi being raped. The news channels from Pakistan usually give such news from small cities or villages. High class girls in Pakistan engage in 'such' activites with their own free will and don't get raped I guess.
I guess if we talk about middle/ upper middle class educated people like most of us on this forum belong to, we don't see much rape cases in our 'class' and thus we cannot assume that guys belonging to this class can easily accept such girls. These talks are only talks until God forbids such case happens.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
it doesnt matter what you have heard or what you havent heard
rape knows know class, religion, cast, or age. Majority of these rapes are committed by someone you know, within your family circle, ur friend circle, where you shop most often, someone from your college etc. since rich people don't exactly live in seclusion, they are just as likely to become rape victims as someone from a middle/lower class background
i'm surprised you didnt know that
You may be right. But how many of us heard about rape victims in upper class society in Pakistan from news or from our own circle? May be such incidences don't come to surface and are kept hidden.
Re: to the GUYS! This is about rape..would u leave ur gf/fiance if she was raped??
You may be right. But how many of us heard about rape victims in upper class society in Pakistan from news or from our own circle? May be such incidences don't come to surface and are kept hidden.
majority of rape cases go unreported anyways.... why wud someone go around talking about it?
i realize u havent heard if it and thats fine but there are organizations with statistics and other information relating to sexual assault, including sociology/psychiatric literature ,,,im speaking based on those that rape knows no religion, age or socioeconomic status.
but anyways I guess this isnt really related to your thread so i'll back off on trying to convince you about that but i do suggest you do some research before believing that it only happens to middle/lower class ppl
. Unbelievable isnt it but so very true!
We can only assume as this is a very hypothetical situation. Allah Swt sab ko aisi situation se bachai Ameeen.
