Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife
down they long for men to be with them but unfortunately with their attitude, men just do not want to deal with them. Hurts these women more in the end.
These women are just happy to look like women and act like women. They know their limitations and abilities, both.
Time has not changed for those women also. They love men to be around and live a happy life.
Have you checked with women before making this claim?
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I feel sorry for the young girls who are going to marry some of you men posting in this thread.
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Have you checked with women before making this claim?
I knew that was coming.
Take a walk outside in fresh air and ask majority women from every background who are living happily in this very world.
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What is demeaning to women? Not liking dirt and getting mucky fingernails? Really? Who said women shouldnt like those things? Why on earth are you going off on weird tangents? I just said I can jump my own car…that means I am looking down upon tomboys??? Where did being girly come in?
Okay…
diwana,
Men need women just as much as women do. You will never be able to procreate on your own. You will never become pregnant. You will never be able to breastfeed a child. You will always need a woman to help you carry on your lineage. You DO need a woman just as much - if not more - than a woman needs you. You came from a woman’s uterus…your mother is a woman. She put you behind that laptop screen. If you have a problem with females being independent…I suggest you take it up with her first.
One does not exist without the other or need one more than the other. That much is supported by facts. Not blatant statements with no proof or backup. The fact is, you dont have any solid proof behind your claims.
It seems you say things…anything you can think of with the hope that if you say it confidently enough…people will believe it.
Why dont you ask a few women on GS how happy they are with or without men?
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I never said men do not need women did I?
Both need each other equally.
All through this thread I was saying women who think they can live without men are living in fantasy world. So the discussion has been around those women who think they can substitute men in their lives.
Also the discussion started from ‘compromise’.
I said in the beginning, both compromise and both have to. I asked where did I say anything wrong there?
The problem started where I said women in this world have to compromise MORE. Some women do not believe that 
so be it, but I do.
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^ Garam hawa is what that sounds like
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^I read that as Garam halwa. 
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Me…woman-hater…never…i am just going with the flow here…topic of women..i shoudl’ve clarified…
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EDAL.
I Agree with some of your points. Its clear you are not bothered about making any kind of impression at gupshup and just are speaking what you feel the way things are.
However- EDAL. While your right that it is easier for any man to get the girl he wants- and it is right that most men desire if not actually practice to be free and sleep around as they wish before settling with a good virgin wife.
However, I would say that any man with such a thinking that sombody or anybody is trash has a serious personality defect.
Going for or sleeping around with prostitues or known sluts is one thing.
Everyone has desires. But men or women that seduce or manipulate virgin/good human into sex, then dump then on becming bored or finding another, calling them trash, do nothing but ruin that innocent persons life. These are the women that then get further used and become knwown as objects for men to pursue who are looking for csual sex.
I think any human that participates in such a lifestyle which contributes to genuine women or men becoming slut or slags or 'trash' carries a burden.
Nobody is born as 'trash', society and people lead them into it. It is Men who lie about themselvs, depict somthing they are not and promise the world, and coax women into loving and sleeping with them are individuals who make this 'trash'. God forbid, how would one like it if there sister or mother was labelled or being between people that would be thinking of likeing them to be 'trash'.
Be more upfront; i think men who cause other to become trash are bigger trash themselves, and while this personality defect may not be immidietly observable, after knowing or observing somebody more properly, where more of thier personality and nature becomes prevalent is when thh trash can becomes more obvious.
Forget zina, or tauba for forgivness. Its the detrimental effect of a habitual fornicator has on society that is more of the concern. A lot of women good or bad are looking for sincere men out there, and where if men do not care for the real needs of those women, furfilling thier needs with them, moving on to to when they belive its the right time for them to settle in sincere relation, shows great disrespect for human and mankind.
I dont think a person who has disrespected so many people, can form into an ideal or good husband to his 'clean wife' at when he feels it is the time for him.
sometimes humanas have inherent tendencies that cannot be changed. Either they are honest throughout thier life or they are not, either they are a hardworking individual throughout or they are not, either they respect women throughout or they do not.
Also breaking natural or Godly laws can have thier ramifications maybe not in the present but in the future. Religious law are in place to preserve the nature and wellbeing for only humans themselves and not God.
It is well-known that casual and unrestrained sex has ramifi's not only as potential std.s but future distortion to reproductive fucntion, (for instance impotence), or hepatitus a,b,c and a range of other problems. These are the very natural and more likely consequcnes of the natural activity of promiscuous sex.
So it maybe that than possibly now or sooner the one labelling other as trash could technically be a real trash himself.
A carefree and confident attitude to life is good. But, keeping aside religious consequences, its wise for present and future worldy health and wellbeing, and therefore of our potential loved ones, that we think about our lifestyle.
Relativly, Everybody likes sex. But not all refrain from it or regulate themself from it because of religion. I agree the religious penalty of 100 lashes is not a real deterance.
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I don't think men who sleep around and then openly say they want or deserve a virgin wife can get 'anyone they want', usually the wives they end up with are desperate (for whatever reason) and/or have no self-respect or low self-esteem or something..
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I don't think men who sleep around and then openly say they want or deserve a virgin wife can get 'anyone they want', usually the wives they end up with are desperate (for whatever reason) and/or have no self-respect or low self-esteem or something..
ummmm by that logic, the dudes that non-virgin girls marry are also desparate and have no self respect or low self esteeM?
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^Only if the girls who aren't virgins themselves go round saying they will only marry or 'deserve' a virgin (while calling non-virgin men 'trash').. Have never come across a girl like that tho.. do they even exist??
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I would like to remind a persons lifestyle or past tells a lot about thier personality.
There are some charecteristics of people that can never change, or change with extreme difficulty.
Somebody who has been sleeping around with women and then boldy and confidently announces that, shows that neither they ahve done taubah and neither do they regret thier actions.
Zina is not so important islamically that it brings the death or hell sentence for a man. The essense of prohibitonof zina/pre-marital sex, is not only for preservation of dignity for man and especially women, but for the health and wellbeing of society as a whole.
A person who has been 'humping' around has been violating the rights of other humans/women, he is bleakening that girls dignity and future life propestc, in other words he is leading to a ruin of the people he likes to sleep with.
Who knows who such perosn has been sleeping with...I mean nobody likes 'trash' do they.....nobody at first choice prefers to go and sleep with the prositue or lady known to have been with so many partners.
Men, usally in the first instance also go for the 'clean or best' stuff. It is usually harder to entreat the 'clean' stuff , so a lot of men resort to lieing, false promsies of love, sincerity others to entice these women to sleep with them. Then having furfilled thier 'need's, leave these girls as they are now 'trash' to ove onto the next girl or object..and it continues.
Therefore its clear that nobody is born trash, but its men who make women trash. Such Gross disrespect aman could have for fellow human beings and then boldy annocuning his acts, shows that he is neither repentant and neither matured or gained respect for women.
Infact, this topic can be easily related to the plethora of threads ibn life1 and in real life we all observe of girls relating how they had been cheated and ruined thier lives by certain men.
think this is riducluous. With all respect everybody has insticnts. But being inconsiderate of for the people your doing shows a major lacking of personality.
Furthermore calling them 'trash' shows the person has indeed learned or amnded nothing of hismelf and he probably is unlikely to in the future...as if had indeed maned himself and done taubah they way he asserts he would not address them in such manners.
Such individuals, who have had historys of using women and and recalling them as trash, could be seriously susceptible to doing the same with there one wife. They say that habits are hard to change. Who wonders what the fate of such mans wife would actually be.
As said impled before... the example, of a man who can commit lies or practices to the extent of enticing women to expend what is the most precious possesion of a women, shows a lot about his level of personal integretity and level honesty.
There Gross disrespect for women in this case- Disrespect of an immatcheble level. Neither is thier real repentance or guilt in this case. And Amendment only comes with guilt.
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In our society, the men get away with this sexual behaviour, unfortunately woman are dubbed as sluts /whores, even if they were tricked (or wanted to) into bed. Its not fair to the woman, but thats the reality.
These double standards forces some women to be operated, so they become medically virgins again.
For the rest, I strongly suggest, claim you are a virgin no matter what. Claim you do a lot of physical excercise or horse riding, etc if questioned. Under no circumstances ever admit otherwise.
Do not feel guilty or terrified you will be found out even after marriage - deny it, and convince your mind that you have done no wrong.
Sorry, we cannot change our society, so adapt and overcome this hurdle.
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unfortunetly the sad truth is 99% of the men think like EDEN.
Unless the present generating new parents stop filling their son's head with **** like "beta you have get a virgin because it is your right and our family honor depends on it" from the time he is a toddler nothing will change.
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Can a woman change tire of her car/SUV at night on a dark road by herself?
Yeah my friend did... all by herself.
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unfortunetly the sad truth is 99% of the men think like EDEN.
Unless the present generating new parents stop filling their son's head with **** like "beta you have get a virgin because it is your right and our family honor depends on it" from the time he is a toddler nothing will change.
no they don't, 99% of women THINK that 99% of men think like EDAL. stop generalising (I do realise the irony of my statement).
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I think everyone's missing on a huge chunky fact here... sex before marriage is zina right... ? An unforgivable sin like murder, rape, drinking etc. Even a Companion of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) committed this act and then confessed and asked for the due punishment of being stoned to death so he could be forgiven by Allah. Thus it's not a small deal... even today or ever... for a Muslim man or woman. In order to be forgiven you have to take the due punishment for it even if you do tauba... you are excused only if you weren't aware of this at the time you committed the act. So I wouldn't take him even if it meant staying single for the rest of my life... since he has crossed the line.
Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife
I think everyone's missing on a huge chunky fact here... sex before marriage is zina right... ? An unforgivable sin like murder, rape, drinking etc. Even a Companion of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) committed this act and then confessed and asked for the due punishment of being stoned to death so he could be forgiven by Allah. Thus it's not a small deal... even today or ever... for a Muslim man or woman. In order to be forgiven you have to take the due punishment for it even if you do tauba... you are excused only if you weren't aware of this at the time you committed the act. So I wouldn't take him even if it meant staying single for the rest of my life... since he has crossed the line.