Re: To all the men who want a "pure" virgin wife
Most men/almost all can change tire, but most women cannot including so called independent women.
nah, my neighbor got flat tires when he ran over some spikes and he didnt know how to take it off so he tried to puncture with a nail cutter
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Ab apke dimaghon pe zang bhi nahin lagana hai…
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diwana Most men/almost all can change tire, but most women cannot including so called independent women.
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changing a tire on a car seems like a pretty lame example of dependency. Even a monkey could figure out how to change a tire and I'm sure most women do know how, they choose not to do it most likely because it involves some physical work and men are biologically stronger than women, hence the task is easier for them.
times have changed diwana, people are not so much defined by the traditional gender roles anymore. Growing up my dad was the epitome of a typical "man", he fixed the plumbing, repaired anything that broke, did any physical labour intensive type house work. I know about one guy in my generation who knows and does all the same things that my dad used to, but other than that all my friends and acquaintances are nothing like this old stereotype. In my house I am just as capable of fixing the dishwasher as my husband and I am just as likely to do it. When issues like this come up in our household I don't automatically assume my husband will do them because he's the 'man of the house', because frankly he knows no more about it than I do. We either work out a solution together, or whoever has more time will deal with the problem. And this isn't just my home, everywhere I look I see women doing things that are traditionally a man's role and men doing things which are traditionally a women's role. So any dependency based on these kinds of roles is fast disappearing.
So its not just women who have become more independent, men have changed too. So yes in a lot of situations women do have to compromise and men don't, but these days a lot of women choose not to compromise too. As time passes the percentage of women who choose not to compromise is going to continue to increase. The way it was in the past was unfortunate for women but luckily it is rapidly changing for the better and that's why in this ever advancing world it is a surprise to a lot of people when someone holds the views and values of Edal.
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How much more of a douchebag could you possibly be?
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So what if Triple A sends a man to do the job? That justifies the need for a husband because he is a man? LOL.
Look Diwana, I get SOME of what you're saying. Women ARE physically weak and yes they are "hunted" by men more than men are hunted by others. They will continue to be that way until some formula is invented to change things genetically or every woman starts weight training or whatever else can be done. BUT the world is changing and it is ADAPTING to nature.
And your argument about why times have not changed in all these centuries and people claim so now is weak. It IS changing now and fast. It took less than a century of suffrage, industrialization, blah blah to change it all and probably will take less than a century for women to be exactly where men are. We are in a time of change but your thinking is not able to adapt to it. And it's not just women. The world is adapting even for the handicapped, disabled, and/or aged people.
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Look , like I said, it is what it is.
Never said it was fair, or wrong, or right, just is, like most things in life.
Bangladesh can cry and scream all it wants about how it's not fair that Qatar is so tiny and has so much oil and wealth. But is that going to do anything for Bangladesh? Nope.
Bangladesh is better of realizing, damn,I better do what I can to make the best with what I have.
Just like instead of wasting your time arguing with me, good Muslim girls should just realize , "you know what, even if guys are doing wrong, doesn't mean I should do it cause at the end of the day it's gonna hurt me much much more than it ever will them, they will just boast about it, for me it'll be a source of shame".
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EDAL, you didn;t even read my post, im not talking about whether her hymen is broken or not, but to what extent would you define her as "clean"?
ok she hasn't never had a boyfriend, never shook hands with a guy or whatever
but you cant deny she never thought about sex before you, been curious about it, fantasized about being with a man (or even a woman), read alot of literature (islamic and secular) about sex, thought about the male anatomy, discussed stuff with her close female friends maybe stumbled onto some porn by accident, these are all natural things yet she didnt come close physically to a man.
what do you think about that? Does it scare you? Do you still see her as this virgin mary figure who can be the mother of your kids?
I think porn is mental filth and disgusting, a girl who watches that, I would never marry. Nor should any respectable guy.
As for your other points, as long as she didn't act out on her fantasies than I think that's fine.
Its probably good she has those, that means you will have a healthy sexual life.
But you know, personally I don't like girls (for marriage that is) who are open about sex, like even if she has all that stuff on her mind, she should be shy and bashful. I mean she's your wife, not some ***** from a night club that you will spend an hour with.
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Look man, everyone has to live their own life, trying to impress some "feminist lesbo" crowd is not going to do any Muslim girl any good.
I went to University in America, anyone who has knows how overly liberal the mindset on campus can be, how environment obsessed pc feminists (men and women) will try and shove a lot of crap down your throat. They try to make it as if men and suvs are the cause of all the worlds problems. You know what, I knew it was all bs and so did 99.9% of the other kids there.
I'm just tired of this PC crap we have to follow all the time, can't we just say things as they really are sometimes? I know what I say sounds harsh and shocking, but deep down you all know its basically true.
Some of you might even laugh when I tell you that , for my non major options I took some sociology classes one of them being "gender relations" and just the amount of bs our lesbo prof tried to shove in our faces was astounding.
So that's why I kinda push back at all bs, left wing, pc statements and ideas.
Cause at the end of the day it does no one any good to try and hide from reality.
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Nothing new then…
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I think this mindset has to do with upbringing too.
Growing up, I was constantly told there is nothing I could not do if I wanted to. I did not have brothers...so all of us girls were very very independent. Sure, my dad did a lot of the guy stuff around the house but he never limited me if I wanted to do things traditionally a guy would do. He had his own business and I helped him with his work all the time. He taught me how to throw a punch when I was little, give my car a jump if I needed it, blah blah blah. Im sure men know more about mechanics of things but that also has to do with interest. Its not interesting for females to learn how to change a tire so they dont. It is interesting to learn how to do our own make up, so we do. Does this mean we cannot do those things? Nope.
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Im sure men know more about mechanics of things but that also has to do with interest. Its not interesting for females to learn how to change a tire so they dont. It is interesting to learn how to do our own make up, so we do. Does this mean we cannot do those things? Nope.
Thats demeaning to women.......why can't women be interested in mechanics, cars, nerdy stuff....
why do we have this pre-concieved notion that girls shouldn't like those things......why is it looked down upon by other girls??
if a girl is tomboyish...all other girls taunt her and make fun of her because she doesn't dress up n act 'girly'........
why is that??
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How the hell did we go from talking about virginity to…changing flat tires and mechanics? :khums:
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its the magic of the women…
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Wow…do u not get sick of being a woman hater 
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Girls want a pure guy that can support her in life. She doesn't want to wake up next to piece of trash every morning. If she wanted that she would sleep in a landfill. Understand that?
You can tell yourself a hundred times that we do, but we don't. A respectable girl wouldn't marry a used piece of trash. That is what the girls of heera mandi are for.
A used guys is the last possible option for a respectable girl.
Just like instead of wasting your time arguing with me, good Muslim girls should just realize , "you know what, even if guys are doing wrong, doesn't mean I should do it cause at the end of the day it's gonna hurt me much much more than it ever will them, they will just boast about it, for me it'll be a source of shame".
what decent muslim parents would marry their daughter off to a boy that commits sin than brags about it? He obviously doesn't fear Allah.
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To reduce a woman or any person to an object ....and that too as "trash".....does religion support the use of such language? Nope, it doesn't. There is more to Islam than just guarding what's between your legs. In fact, one's tongue (which is capable of plenty of filth as well) can drag on to hell ....which is why we're urged to guard that as well. If you definition of trash is absence of virginity...than you should include yourself under that label as well. Takes two to tango. If you think that a tauba is enough to exempt yourself from that label....then consider that a woman could have done tauba as well. She should be permanently labeled whereas a guy can get away with it? LOL....excuses of "the nature of man" and "that's how society does it" won't fly before Allah. Won't work. If one is going to use such language and continue to uphold an attitude that goes against the common sense and basic principles of Islam.........then that person hasn't changed.......there's a LACK of humility in that person's attitude.....and ya never know.....that could render the "tauba" as ineffective.
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The reality is: A respectable muslim girl wouldn't sleep around and doesn't want to marry a used piece of trash.
A respectable muslim boy wouldn't sleep around and doesn't want to marry a used piece of trash.
However, there are a few(statistically that would happen) that would.
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How much more of a douchebag could you possibly be?
I know you have nothng better to say but stay with the spirit of discussion will ya?
So what if Triple A sends a man to do the job? That justifies the need for a husband because he is a man? LOL.
Never said that. Marry not marry, women will always be dependent on men and cannot live so called independent lives.
Look Diwana, I get SOME of what you're saying. Women ARE physically weak and yes they are "hunted" by men more than men are hunted by others. They will continue to be that way until some formula is invented to change things genetically or every woman starts weight training or whatever else can be done. BUT the world is changing and it is ADAPTING to nature.
**Have you checked with women before even making such a claim? LOL
Do you think now women would love to become 'muscular monsters' to live 'independant' lives?
Come one get real. Apart from so called twisted minded women who claim they are the warriors against made up problems of women, vast majority of women still hate these femanazis and sick of them.
These women are just happy to look like women and act like women. They know their limitations and abilities, both. ****
Time has not changed for those women also. They love men to be around and live a happy life.**
And your argument about why times have not changed in all these centuries and people claim so now is weak. It IS changing now and fast. It took less than a century of suffrage, industrialization, blah blah to change it all and probably will take less than a century for women to be exactly where men are. We are in a time of change but your thinking is not able to adapt to it. And it's not just women. The world is adapting even for the handicapped, disabled, and/or aged people.
*Those very few twisted minded women can sit and make claims they do not need men, deep down they long for men to be with them but unfortunately with their attitude, men just do not want to deal with them. Hurts these women more in the end. *
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I would love to see those muscular monsters wearing lipstick or bikini. :D
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In response to the second part of your reply.
As much as I hate pointing out such mistakes, I will. There was no claim. I made no claim. A claim is when someone makes a bold statement like "vast majority of women hate feminazis."
In fact, if anything, then I am stating that women are physically weaker and that it would take some over-the-top measure to change that. The point was that the world is changing and molding to overcome or enhance what nature has provided.
It's funny how you pick one word and chase the semantics or pick one idea and chase it's 'seeming' ridiculousness.