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and i wonder how my second para contradicts my first one, cos it only supports what i say in the 2nd... fy ref:
1st: dun stereotype, not a good thing
2nd: treat man and woman equal
now wud u treat A and B equal if u had preconceived notions of them?? think beta think, u are the one that poses metaphysical questions now and then :D
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all those sad paki guys who are sexist were probably raised into the thinking that men are superior.. so if a cheapo passes comments on ur anatomy go bash his mom and dad up.. r.i.p.
This line in your second paragraph admits that you acknowledge some men, including pakis, to be sexist pigs, etc. But then in the first paragraph, you say don't generalize.
AT least we both agree that they exist. I just think the majority of them are not good.
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uff meri amma, zara socho:::
i say: paki men **who are sexist
u say: **most (paki) men **are sexist
**do u see the differece??? or shall i explain? i said men who happen to be sexist are dfly the result of their parents wrong teachings... u say most men are like that... u stated an opinion and i stated a reason for a phenomenon...
my opinion: objective
urs: subjective
so my lady, do i need to elaborate any further?
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alright, so whether its a majority, or not - its still a widespread problem that should be discussed? What's your beef? We both agree for the most part, lets move on.
Jesus, you want me to find you a girlfriend?
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you find girlfriends for anyone who disagrees with you?
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Keep that in mind 
SOME MEN
so dont generalise.
You are the only one here who opens such threads. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself, maybe you are doing something wrong that makes men act like animals.
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dutch paki - dont even try to turn this thread onto pcg-is-evil. I'm evil. End of story. Now move on and discuss the topic at hand - which is bad parenting.
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i got more than my share of coddling but I dont go around whistling after females.
more an issue of frustration and optimism than anything else.
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PCG, its not bad parenting... its ur gross generalisation and severe hatred for guys in general.. end of story
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Like I said, take a look at yourself first. Who opens ’ all men are evil’ threads in the first place?
but going on topic, true there are flaws in our culture. But talking in the way you do wont help anyone . it ll only make you more bitter. I dont know what your experience is with men, but I doubt it was good.
about working 
last time I checked, most men in out society work thei asses off and the women take care of the household 
So I dont see what will be different from your kids and the rest of the society?
You think they are cudled and all? From childhood they have to learn, that they will have to bring food on the table. And most MashAllah succeed.
In western countries, both work. Here in Holland the percentage working women is almost equal to men.
But do listen what everyone else says every now and then. You keep creating this bill board that all men are pigs etc. But only a few agree with you.
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nope, read my initial topic. If you guys can't hold onto a discussion and want to blame me as a man-hater, then go ahead. But if that's the case, then dont contribute to this discussion because you're not adding anything to it. You're just ruining a perfectly good thread and a perfectly good topic that deserves discussion and bringing down teh quality of GS in general.
So, if you want to PCG bash, you can do it in my journal or by PM. Act maturely, or the mods can lock the thread.
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PCG bash? no no, there needs to be some difference yes?
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NO THANKS!!! i defly dont want a girlfriend thru u - one that hates men 24/7 
.. waesay girlfriend se kya faayda.. usse behtar main gay ban jaoon
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PCG, noone wants to bash u... but the topic you have raised is i dunno somewhat insulting to parents... and those people who do know decent men..
yes, everyones experience is not the same.. hence the reason why u do think most men are pigs..
if you read peoples responses carefully, you have ur answer... it is not bad parenting that creates piggish men..
i have a brother who has been pampered all his life.. for goodness sakes, i also do things for him and curse him at the same time for being a male... but hes not turned out to be a pig or indecent... so what if the mother shows more love to their son.. it doesnt guarantee that he's gonna grow up to be disrespectful human being..
People in villages arent all very illiterate.. and yes some of their thinknig is old fashioned or watever.. do u think all their sons turn out to be galli ke lafange?? aint there any one decent male in the millions of people being bred in villages?
why are u letting a few wrotten eggs destroy the whole pack??
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FEW??
Yes, that's where we differ sadzz. Stop thinking as a sister with a cool brother and think objectively. Maybe I'm better able to do that since I dont have any brothers.
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PCG basically it comes down to this. You have issues with men. Most women regardless of race or religion don't. There are happily married people with husbands they adore.
You find men replusive, you do know it could just be you and the men you hang out with.
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I think we have made some progress here (I hope). From solely blaming the mothers, the blame has now fallen on bad parenting. I am assuming it means both parents, though if PCG still feels moms should take the lion share, I think I can live with it. See, I am so reasonable 
Now, if we continue making steady progress, one day PCG will agree that not all men are pigs… mind you some will remain pigs, as even I will admit that… but then there are some others who are pretty cool, like some surfer-dudes or something 
Anyway, the world feels more reasonable now.
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how abt u taking the lead in maintaining the relevance of posts to the topic? why dont u address the issue instead of spending ur time rebutting every td&h?
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^ no, i think thats ur handicap... that u dont look at it from that point of view. Ur letting a few (ok a lot) of bad experiences and generalising the attitudes of one gender..
b/w i never said i had a cool brother.. he can be a total jerk too, but that doesnt mean i hold that against him and every other guy..
someone could blame ur parents for the way u think...
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Faisal, boys are good to look at - they’re eyecandy that is it. The surfer dude is entertainment.
You guys can carry on pcg-bashing. The topic is how to raise good boys. Hopefully some people may be able to bring some good points to the topic. Until then, carry on with the pcg-bashing. Have fun wasting your time. :k: