The Way We Raise our Boys

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Vague question and hence vague replies. Perhaps if you define the principal features of YOUR vision of jerk then maybe each ingredient of a “jerk” could be analyzed individually.

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you know what, i dont even think you deserve any “constructive” replies.

I have never been a fan of "smaller" countries taking part in WC or ICCCT - Ponting
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:hehe:

You got pissed!

Good grief - you can’t deny that desi parenting is contributing to the raising of piggish men. Its a discussion, Miss Mohabbat - treat it as such. And you should know better than to take me 100 percent seriously, by now.

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^ well said...

PCG, why discriminate?

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yeh i did get pissed and its not funny.

i can deny it, and i will. how dare you critisise anybodies parenting skills, when you yourself are not a parent? who are you to judge? do you even have a brother?

I dislike certain men who have caused me pain (not boyfreinds, iv never had the need) but i have never labelled them as *igs.

you dont have a right to insult any mother the way you have, you are not a mother yourself.

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whatever

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PCG, i gotta agree with Missy..

firstly, why blame the desi parenting system?? It doesnt just come down to being desi.. why blame the whole culture for the acts of some? and yes its some... not all desi men are pigs..

and yeah, as miss_mohabbat said, it is quite rude to insult anothers parenting skills

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I don't know if its even worth trying to bring the thread back to any form of sensible discussion, but anyways.

You can't just blame mothers. Fathers have as much a responsibility in making sure their kids are brought up in a responsible manner. Everyone tries their best. Some just miss the boat due to a variety of factors. Plus all kids have inherent characteristics that you just can't change, despite how much you try.

Parents, both of them, should try to be fair. I believe it always helps if boys have sisters. That gives them an early lesson in respecting the females. Its not a rule of thumb, but it definitely helps. There are no magic wands here. Parents have to work hard for atleast 15-18 years to make responsible adults out of their kids. And the first thing is that parents should know what they are doing.

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^ it also helps if girls have brothers.. they learn to respect the opposite gender and realise they aint all that bad...

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^ Thats true. I missed that. Probably because I was focussing on the question on how we raise our boys.

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^ I only brought it up, since PCG is always opening up threads degrading desi men (actually all men)

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^ I think you have a very good point. This is a two-way street.

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^ yeap... I think the more time we spend with the opposite gender (not intimately), we understand them more.. and this ive seen with a lot of friends..

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again an excellent point sadzzz :k:

Sheynyyyyyyyyyy
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I dont know if you guys have some sort of bias here - I'm not just talking about elite educated Pakistanis or Pakistanis living abroad. Lets include parents from village areas and from poverty-stricken areas, uneducated working-class parents - where are THEIR priorities when raising kids. You don't think mothers from these classes of families raise their boys very differently from the way they raise their girls?

I've seen it first hand among families when I've visited Pakistan. They give in way too much to their sons.

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The more time I spend with guys, the more I realize how matlabi and sexually greedy they are. They will not treat other girls the same way they treat their mothers and sisters. If they do, its a minority. To be quite honest, this doesn't seem to be a big problem with educated desi families. Educated being the key word, although throwing big words around doesn't necessarily mean you're a good person.

I live in Miami, and I've seen the way the majority of latino men and jamaican men, and haitian men treat their women. Its deplorable. If I went into examples, miss mohabbat, your reaction would seem quite ignorant. I think the way boys are raised is a big factor, and I dont need to be a mom to see it. As long as I have eyes...

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hey u know what u seriously need a social reorientation program or something.. how can u typify men so pathetically?? human beings were all created different.. we didnt come out of a factory.. so stop trying to group people into one class... its like calling all muslims terrorists... how different are u from those republican creeps??? a joke once in a while seems ok but u cant carry it too far...

so much for all of that, i will raise my kids thinking men and women are equal.. and i will practice that when i treat them myself... i wont encourage them to have an unhealthy stereotyping tendency in their minds for anybody - people from other religions, cultures, countries whatever... only if parents are mature enough to espouse these values will kids have strong character.. all those sad paki guys who are sexist were probably raised into the thinking that men are superior.. so if a cheapo passes comments on ur anatomy go bash his mom and dad up.. r.i.p.

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so, desibanda, your second paragraph contradicts your first. If you're a chand babu and you are not a discriminated sexually greedy guy, then good for you. Shahbash, I'm proud of you, more people like you should exist. But dont get offended then. Because you dont fall under the category of men I speak of.

Or guilty conscience?

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hey relax and think of this: even if i dont fall in that category it doesnt matter cos if u make such gross generalizations, anyone would feel insulted... lets put it this way.. if i say u are a nice sweet girl and all other women are b!tches wud u feel happy??? wudnt u think of ur sister, ur mother and all the women u know when someone says that??? neways, i guess my words wont mean anything to u cos u have a built-in prejudice that u have to get rid of urself.. i feel sorry for u though.. think of those men whom u respect and of all those u adore whenever u feel that adamzaat is all a menagerie of pigs, dogs and the like.

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yeah, there is not many i do respect and adore.