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A question how can you blame parenting for something you don't agree with? PCG your posts are colored. Tinted red if you wish. Something that appears to be male dominance could very easily be something very normal.
What exactly are you blaming parents for? A male dominanted society? Men acting like men? Or culture defining your restrictions?
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although when it comes to parenting people seem to have their priorities screwed up. boys are annoying and coddling makes them weak. im going to pamper my lil queens.
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FINALLY - kisses CM
Okay, so you're saying a male-dominated society is normal? "acting like men" - define that.
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so u gonna cuddle, hug, kiss ur daughter while spank ur son’s a$$ off?? remember that doesnt address ur prob of gender inequality one bit.. ur only tilting the scales the other way..
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Ok if you are blaming parents for a male dominanted society remember the mother influences the child the most in a family. The mother is a female in our society naturally. So if a man believes himself to be superior to women normally it is conditioning from the mother.
Now you can not blame the husband as the generation our parents belong to makes sure the husband in many cases is very hands off on the day to day lives of the children. Once the boys are older are they influenced by the father.
But the day to day condition and the building of the psyche of the man is usually covered by the mother.
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I never said anything about how i'd raise my daughters. Dont put words in my mouth.
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alright CM - so you admit its the mom that has a big impact on her sons - so exactly what does she do that leads them to be the male-dominating kind? Is it too much pampering, is it too little, or is there something else at work here?
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no i am curious, pls tell me how u gonna raise ur daughters.. that will give us a few insights on whether we have been banging our heads on a dead wall or not.. 
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i think its halarious how if one doesnt agree with ones thinking.. its called “bashing” :k:
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sadzz, shutup or contribute to the discussion.
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^^ i see a hitler in the making :D
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The mother has a big impact on everybody. You will see naturally the son looks after the mother and in cases has turned on the father if he feels the mother is threatened.
Unlike the common assumption that people have today human society has not been male dominanted for centuries. It has been male dominated for 4 max 6 centuries. Before that and even today in many cases it is female dominated.
You see men before would not marry 1 woman. They would impregnant many and leave. The family was run by the mother and her sons were her weapons so to speak. Thus a mother with alot of suns was not just a woman but could easily be a war lord or run a kingdom.
Anyway women control families an children. Always have. I am not a parent nor a mother so i don't know how to answer that.
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However to add PCG men are not the issue here. You have the issue. All men are not evil and all men are not pigs. Mothers do bring up their boys right. You see that in every day life.
You however have a problem with a certain select few men who do not meet your desired cirteria.
I am not being insulting nor do i wish to cause offense but you should seriously think about getting some help.
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a good read for this topic is here:
http://www.abacom.com/~jkrause/jesus.html
the article is a general one on jesus and his life but it cud be seen as blasphemous by devout muslims and christians..
getting to the point, it gives a reason why women were ill-treated in most of the abrahamic world until recently (and still in some parts).. its bcos of a translation of the oldest bible.. a new bunch of scrolls have been found that predate the oldest bible known and instead of deriding eve for inciting adam, they establish that eve is the giver of wisdom.. read on and post ur comments in another thread… pls dun hijack pcg’s thread with the details from that link.. thanks
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CM I have defined the issue of this thread to be men and their raising - your comments are insightful. But indeed, I dont have jack shyte of a problem here - the topic is defined as it is - you dont like it , thel lehne jao.
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I think we all form our opinions based on our real-life experiences (including reading/movies/tv/whatever). Intelligent amongst us try not to generalize too much or too incorrectly.
So, if PCG has had bad experiences with men/boys, she is entitled to her opinion that "majority" of men/boys are jerks (saying ALL of them are jerks, is still pushing it).
Who is responsible for producing jerks? A combination of parents, friends, teachers and society in general. Arguably the largest blame my still fall on parents, and amongst parents, mother may take the lion share.
How can it be fixed? I think PCG gave the answer in an earlier post... education. EOS.
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And i am telling you that their raising is fine. If it were not you would have anarchy and not the society you have today. Women would be waking around naked and you could bang a woman on the street if you wanted. That is how you describe men.
You say we are pigs we are evil or whatnot. You however do not wish to even give the other side a chance to speak. You are are perfect example of how the narrow-minded do not wish to see the other side.
You say all men are pigs from your personal life as an example. I am truly sorry you have had to deal with men not brought up right but hey that doesn't apply to 99% of the world. They live with men. They marry men and they raise men. A majority of the world doesn't have a problem with men.
You do. The rest don't. How has the issue or problems?
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^ out of all that, only your first sentence is relevant. comon people, i know you can do it...just focus.
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so how does ur definition of discussion work?? the others have to agree with u in the end?
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Faisal education means nothing if parents are jahils. I have met "educated" people who have masters and the like but resort to the jahil notions of caste and genetics. Oh this guy is from this clan that must mean he is a great man. Yeah the great man is a drug dealer and rapes women on the side but he has blue blood in him.
People like this believe the planes that flew into the twin towers were piloted by robots or that Bush is out to destory islam.
These men and women may have an education degree, but in my book they are not educated.
Tarbiet (spelling) is more important than education. And that is what pakistani society lacks.