The Truth About Why Men Cheat

Lifestyle Relationships
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You know Muzna and RV, while i respect your comments and posts.

There is really not point of me trying to clarify myself, because you both seem adament on your own limited perspectives, and seem unable to contain yourselfs up when additionals are suggested.

Basically the purpose of this thread is to unveil all the reasons why men cheat in order that we can be aware of them and find ways of adressing and find solutions to them.

WHat you two are asserting that 'Men should excercise greater self-control', is an already well-known concept to everyone, including to the cheating and non-cheating men.
99% of Pakistani men who cheat are well aware of this and the islamic consequcnes but still do it.
So it is not really that helpful in simply repeadtly re-iterating this.

And I will not take back my assertion that Pakistani men are less conditioned than women towards the opposite sex by family and society, which contributes to the less importance they give to keeping chaste.

RV and Muzna, Most of the time the issue is not about men not being able to control thier hand or feet.

Its about **Attraction. **Men are naturally programmed to be inclined towards womens beauty, so this is the problem, that some men find difficult to help.

Because of this apparent weakness Allah has purposly created in men, he ordered Women to cover and conceal thier beauty in order to prevent them being attracted.

We are not just talking about rape, or molestation. Many real-life cases of relationships working out bad, are due to the man only being attracted to the girl for her beauties sake, and when this prime need/goal is furfilled there is no more need left for him to on him.
I have real-life female friends having gone through and totally agree to this.
Some have even said that thier 'beauty' has become an 'azaab' for them.

Anyway - in accordance with Islam, I have outlined why its in the best interest of both sexes for women adhering to covering thier beauty.

Once again I still put most blame and put most reponsibility to man for starting relationship with a women, and all men should be universally urged to 'lower thier gazes', and the more men did this the cheating phenomena would be reduced.

But what I do also know for a fact, and in line with Allahs recommendation, is that if more women also coverered more of themself it would reduce the no.of men constantly hit with attraction, thus reduce the need for them to act on it and thus reduce the cheatings going on.
and regarding this part, since cheating/wrongly worked out relations, are more consequential and damaging to the women (being the weaker sex), the concept of women covering themselves is of to nobody of greater benefit than women.

To conclude I am not saying that girls who do not wear head scarf/ full body cover are inferior to those that do.

enough has been said on this issue for those that wish to understand.

JO CHALA GAYA MUJY CHOR KER
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Amir saheb.....has enough been said or are you unable to address the direct questions posed to you?

This is a debate....you are presenting your side and I am presenting mine.

You can question my position and I am obligated to either explain or concede.

I am merely doing the same.....asking you to explain your position and waiting for either an answer or .......

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That’s what it comes down to … lack of morals, inability to tell the difference between right and wrong. If they lack morals in this area, they will mostlikely lack morals in all other aspects of their lives as well.

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gaiay, ye mazmoon kahan se copy kia hai? :aq:

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It's one thing to accept this fact about a human being.....be they man or woman.

But what really scares me as a mother of a girl is that there are men out there like Amir saheb who want to use religious scripture twisted into an excuse for their perverted and out of control behaviours/thoughts/feelings.

This is one argument that, for the sake of all the little girls out there, I simply will not concede.

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well said.

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I have the link in the first post, its from webMD. Why? You like:blush:??

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Muzna, how can the debate continue when certain people cant help exploding themself all over here when there word is not the last word of the debate.

Regarding my twistedness, I dont think I have portrayed anything of its like.

If you have not got knowledge or ability to understand things unfavourable to yourself it doesnt mean its twisted or the person saying it is twisted.

Im sorry but IM not twisted, my only objective in quoting those relgious examples was to illustrate somthing.
And dear, you are calling* *me twisted, **for deducing extreme conclusions from those examples?

Babes, have some objectvity (which you obviously dont), and look at those examples and honestly and calmly re-consider who is it me or somebody else that is perverted/twisted?
and then decide are the ideas and conclusions i draw and forward from those examples inaccurate or not.
The truth is the truth.

When I feel there is some tolerance and openmindedness in this thread I will may return to your debate.
And people who are unable to show respect are unworthy to be debated with.

-neverthless, The answers to your questions r in the previous posts.

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These men can say what they want and will continue to do so ...

What you need to do, as a parent, is educate your daughter on what Islam really teaches so that when someone comes along saying all this stuff that is against the teaching, she will not fall for it or become brainwashed.

As the parent of a boy, I intend to do some training too!! :D

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Amir saheb, it is you that explodes and abandons the debate. I am still waiting for some answers to questions that I posted directly to you.

Please let me know if you have any interest in healthy debate where points are addressed in specifics or if you simply wish to derail with tangents.

Need I go back to where you began the name calling and addressing my opinions as "foolish"? You were warned by the director of this discussion board to mind your manners. I simply dismissed your attack because my interest is in the debate.

You are obviously the one that lacks an open mind sir. Please do return when you are ready or when you deem the rest of us worthy.

We will still be here.

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U

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Why was I so sure that as soon as Amir saheb made an exit Nutwer saheb would appear?

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^ Ditto Muzna.

Nutwer Ji, I've had my suspicions way back from CM's "On Behalf of My Friend" thread that you might be Amir_Pindi's multi.

Jamal-e-Yaar ko Dekhoon.....
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Muzna......you do make me crack up.

Ill be absolutly frank. I wasnt talking about you, you know who it was.

And im SORRY but I am not the one portraying an unopen or intolerent mind.

I admit i stepped out of line slightly at the start, but from then on i have watched my style, including replying respectfully to your provokative earlier post, and have also agreed with you and RV on most of the occasions.

I think where others have the problem is where my i project my broader analysis of the issue at hand.

What I like to do, is revert to the flawless root of wisdom i.e the koran and sunnath for the best opnion.
If anyone can prove any of my narrower or broader opinions islamically wrong then I have no trouble conceding.

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Amir_Pindi.....is to.....Nutwer

                                       **as**

Tomato..........is to.....Tomaaato

                **and**

Potato...........is to......Potaato

Or they could be two separate but extremely like-minded individuals.

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haha… who likes such meaningless assumptions :no way:

:hehe:

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RV I dont know what your talking about!

'Nutwer' is another member of gupshup and I do not know his agenda.
Nonetheless, It is disrespectful and wholly inappropriate they way you keep referring to him as me.
I am not unnoticing your excesses.

I come on g.shup to utilise the various recreational facility it provides.
And just because someone has a curosity it doesnt mean they cannnot get married.
and regarding my 'princess' thread', We know people like yourself RV are able to and will find better 'princes' for themself so you can stop worrying about my thread and its average intended audience.

Regarding what you quoted above of me. None of my opinions in this thread, have been inconsistant with Islam.
And if so, then in thier own respect my opinions are valid.

Muzna, my posts have already fully encompassed the answers to your question. Stop acting like a bully.

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Am I bullying you? I'm sorry. That certainly was not the intent.

I merely would like to understand your approach and its origin since we seem to come to one point where we agree with each other and then you pull off to one side and completely throw logic out the window.

I find it frustrating when I pose some very direct questions to you and you simply ignore them.

Do you want me to post them again? Perhaps you missed them......

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Alright then.

If u really want me to answer them i shall later on 2day. But if rv blows up then dont blame me for it.

Meanwhile, il just say that im not the one who is raising arguments here just because my view is not the only one and last view in reply to the thread title.

I only brought up Polygamousness, because I thought unlike coventional familar urges men are r known to have, its an additional one that has less awareness. I dont think any more is neccesery to be said on that.

this is getting stresful, but ill answer them anyway 4 ur satisfaction later.

KAHAN MER GAI SAAREEEEEEEEEEY
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women also cheat.there is no thumb rule for it.