The Sufi Dance

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Read surah Al ma'ida - where quran quote Essa ( A.S) saying - I said to them nothing but what You ordered me to say ... Thus prophets only say / order things to do , which are conveyed to them by Allah ...

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Adam and Eve’s mornings sons married their evening sisters. Should we start that sunnat of Peophet Adam again? What was allowed in one prophet’s shariat is not always an allowable in the shariat of Prophet Mohammad :saw2:

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^- So you don't think Allah swt told the Prophet to read Namaz/the way to read Namaz which the Prophet then told us?

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You are asking me, maheen?

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no that was for McPendo - sorry i quoted later.

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what a mistake. Now dance for repentance.

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:dance:

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Sorry i never learnt - I always thought doing what the Prophet/Quran taught us was enough :bummer:

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quoted for the truth

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How can you openly mock Sufism yet pander to the Sunnis, Shias, Ahmadis, etc...?

I find the lack of sensitivity to religious beliefs highly disturbing.

P.S. I am what one would call a Sunni.

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i am not mocking sufusm, just the dance practice, cause that is, no matter how you put it, against what islam teaches us.

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So would you mock Matam by Shias? Or the lack of the Matam by the Sunnis? Would you mock the Ahmadi school of thought?
Because technically, there are arguments for or against (However flawed one might think) each school of thought.
So you wouldn't be mocking the sect, but their practices.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

I may not believe in something the person next to me does but that doesn't mean I'm entitled to mock them.

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Practices are what makes sins and biddat .. so yes, in this thread, that is what I may seem to be doing.

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Nevermind, it slipped past you.

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I try to stay away from such discussions...........although i do have strong opinions about these issues.........

but in my opinion, its really futile to try to change someone's beliefs when they are not open to reconsidering them...

juss sayin

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so are there societies who follow this no-music no-dance version of islam? it is really hard to picture any culture that doesnt celebrate with song and dance..

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ummmm but Bulleh Shah ain’t no authority on Islam :hmmm:

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It's more of a cultural thing I suppose. Islam does not require a muslim to dance to please God or to make a connection with Him. Forms of worship are well defined: namaz and zikr. But definitely not dance.

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:smack: that is not school of thought of Islam. Both Sunni and Shais are agreed on it.

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They aren't celebrating, this is a form of worship for them which is why it's controversional. "I'm doing this for Allah" is what people object to. Google sufi whirling and the word "dhikr" (remembrance of Allah) will come up over and over again. If you wanna whirl to forget about the world around you and focus on your inner self or whatever, do so by all means. But what's dhikr got to do with whirling/dancing/singing is what I don't understand. It's not prayer or dhikr, it's just whirling, plain and simple.