The Sufi Dance

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What exactly is the purpose of this dance/act? And where did it originate from? Is it an Islamic thing?

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OOh OOH OOH i have the answers but im not telling :blush:

did I mention I’m back in the groove? :blush:

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Tell us :wwnn:

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I'll tell you who was the founder

it was jallaludin rumi

baaqi i want others to participate...

I would also like to ask people how they think dancing like this helps spiritually

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this link provides proofs that they think this dance is permissable in islam:

http://shadhilitariqa.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52

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Get lost in the twirling, lose yourself in meditation, get closer to your Maker.

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P.s it is called a sama

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everybody's islam is different...........juss sayin

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Saw this when on holiday in Istanbul last year, they were called the whirling dervaishes.

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BBQ kamry ko kundi laga ker... khud ker ky dekh leen... pata chal gay ga

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^agar chakar aa gya…aur uska sar manji k paaway pe wajj gya …or kundi b lagi hui…
i wouldn’t recommned :nono:

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I’m going to quote something form an external website hopefully this sheds some light

  • This is multi layered form of religious dance
  • practised by men and women.
  • tall white hat worn whilst dancing represents a grave stone, worn to symbolise the death of the ego.
  • The moves are simple, turning with one hand up and one hand down.
  • idea is to bring energy from heaven to the earth.
  • Not complicated, but very difficult for the novice to spin like this for long periods.
  • moves are tied up in trance and religious feelings of oneness, community and connection with God.
  • Frowned upon by mainstream Islam, the Sufis religion has a very transcendental take on Muslim faith. illustrated by how Sufis sometimes greet one another with the phrase,Ya Azim: "How wonderfully God manifests to me through you.

:chai:

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Rumi fell in love with Allah (SWT) and in his daze he twirled out of love for Him around a pillar ... it is a natural thing that emanates from the hearts of people to dance, swirl and sway on ecstatic bliss and glee. People followed this in him ... however it is not something that should be done as a discipline like it is taught these days ... and in turn make it in to a form of entertainment for people to watch ... that is not what this is about.

This is a form of hadra and different tariqas have their own form ...

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The sufi dance always makes me remind this song

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Also, sometimes the mind is very stubborn, it doesnt let the soul to express itself. The mind gets conditioned by environment, but the soul is the pure essence of the divine. So to lose mind, and to bring out the soul, whirling helps. Buddhists use intense drumming for the same purpose. Sajda has the same impact on mind too.

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sufism and mysticism are kind of like similar like meditative yoga. It isn't exactly a part of Islamic teachings as we are told to follow Quran and Hadith. But it is a part of the islamic sufism.

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How come no one asked me? I have a PHD in Rumi,

So here it goes, The Sufi Dance, or the Sufi Whirling is called the Sama. It wasn't invented by not Rumi but one of the contemporaries of Rumi's Shamz Tabrezi who taught Rumi the whirling dance(Meaning that Shamz was already a whirling dervish before he met Rumi). Rumi in Konya (Present day Turkey) was a profound mathematician and a brilliant scientist. He sought to find God through material means. Rumi was the quintessential molvie who never drank, never listened to music and never danced. But the legend is that once rumi was sitting on the banks of a river reading his scientific books when Shamz Tabrezi asked Rumi, "What is that you're reading?" Rumi proudly taunted "You wouldn't know" and the books set ablaze and rumi fainted. After this both Shamz Tabrezi started frequenting Rumi's residence where they would spend hours praying in a closed room. One of these prayers or "chilla" was done for 40 days in which Rumi locked himself with Shamz for 40 days and when he came out on the 40th day he started to whirl and dance around his house throwing away most of his scientific books and telling his servants to bring him wine. The idea of Sama is to renounce the material world. It is the very basis on which sufism stands. Rumi was known to wear extravagant clothes made out of fine silk and embroidery. When he would do Sama he would rip off his clothes in the middle of Sama and tell his deciples to put white frock on him which is the popular frock you see the followers of Rumi wear. Rumi would start the Sama at the most unexpected places, he would start whirling in the middle of the mosque mid Jamat, he would dance in the markets of Turkey and during his sermons. Rumi mentions the ideology of the Sama in poetry but its very hard to decipher the true meaning behind it. What his disciples speculated was that Rumi danced and whirled symbolizing freedom from material form and in to a spiritual realm, that of the divine.

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Interesting. Then how did the orthodox molvis treated Rumi when he dance in Masjid?

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OK step back please .. music is haram in islam but dancing is halal??

woah ..

I am so much into this move

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You must understand brother, that extremist ideologies weren't present in Islam before. And you must also understand that RUMI was once himself an orthrodox molvie and a brilliant one at that. We have lost touch with knowledge and have surrounded ourselves with false theories when it comes to religion. Back then it was a golden age of Islam where all sort of knowledge and discoruse was accepted and so these men would never dare question Rumi because Rumi would always give examples from the Quran and Hadith wining the argument. He wasn't just a random peer fakkir who got up and started dancing. Please do more research on his life. Thanks

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:hmmm: