The ridiculous interpretations of mullahs and mullah-minded

KhuShi786 · October 9, 2005, 5:01pm

Re: The earthquake as Allah's mercy

its not like they just died ,,they suffered,,,and people are still suffering,,,,

omair_mal1k · October 9, 2005, 6:18pm

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it would be difficult to disagree, even in the face of all the hardships because the first ten days of ramadan are of <I_I_II Rehma, and plus people who die by being crushed under a falling wall are given the status of martyrdom just like those who die by drowning and those women who die while giving birth and ofcorse those who die during Jihad Fi Sabillilah.

but ofcourse all of these have their own varying hardships.

may <I_I_II have mercy on all of us - the living, the dead and the unborn

Lajawab · October 9, 2005, 6:33pm

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To be Shaheed like that in the month of Ramadan...True...Some people get all the breaks...

PakistaniAbroad · October 9, 2005, 7:41pm

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what i'm thinking is why so many didn't catch a break.. i have a few names from around here if malak-al-maut wants to drop me an e-mail..

PyariCgudia · October 9, 2005, 7:44pm

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Maybe its a challenge to see how really muslim we are. And after all, we're our best muslim selves in this month...so how best is our best?

Allah ko yaad karna acha hai. But its not enough. This is your chance to act like a muslim.

Captain1 · October 9, 2005, 9:04pm

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Just out of curiosity, what did this molana say after hurrican Katrina and Rita?

ravage · October 9, 2005, 9:16pm

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its also a blessing for those still alive, and can help others. a good deed in ramzaan is worth 70 times as much.

Starsky · October 9, 2005, 9:16pm

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Does dying in Ramadan guarantee one of Paradise?

Captain1 · October 9, 2005, 9:23pm

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a good question!

ChupKeSe · October 9, 2005, 9:31pm

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thats wut my bro in law said as well

farikhta · October 9, 2005, 9:35pm

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I don't know if you'd be guaranteed heaven if you died in Ramadan. But I do know that the gates of heaven will be open this entire month and the gates of Hell will be closed for this month!

danial · October 9, 2005, 11:46pm

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Guys get over yourself,

Cmon, where was God when Rwanda or Bosnia or earth Quake in Turkey or Iran happened, same place where he was when this earth quake hit pakistan, dont bring religion into everything, There is a huge link on top of this page, all you the mullah squad guys, go give some money and shut up. or if you are that hurt, go get on a plane and help the people who are suffering.

lalas2000 · October 10, 2005, 12:36am

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LastOfTheDinosaurs:

My concern here was the pacifism that the Mullahs cause with regard to life.

If they(Mullahs) are to assume a God to justify “existence” of this world and of themselves, they should at least come up with a bit reasonable concept of God; a God that wouldn’t be appeased and enraged by petty things and wouldn’t destroy at minor lapses.

The point is cannot they have an image of God that is unconcerned and that doesn’t interfere in worldly affairs…and that has left humans to interpret, explain, and manipulate the world through their rational ability! If there is to be a God why should He be wrathful and domineering God!

Now look at the intellectual lethargy that this attitude (of Muslims) to life and nature has caused.

Other people, like Chinese, Westerners, etc. would go and find causes for natural phenomena and calamaties…would come up with practical soultions and powerful technologies…and would thus become more powerful to control nature and other human beings…but “Muslims would try to invoke mercy of Allah”…if you would consider yourself helpless, you inevitably would become helpless…

i’m not trying to be rude or something fellow, but you really need glasses. instead of blending everything in your logic and then blaming mullahs, why don;t you read quran and you will find out your answer.

“nothing happens without the will of ALLAH” - ALQURAN , even leaf does not move.

then how come all this can happen without HIS will.

now as regard to mullahs, they are the one who has understood the purpose of this life and where the sucess lies. unfortanetly i think we so called educated one’s are infact blind and jahils and not those mullahs.

ALLAH may show us all the straight path. ameen!

zafar2002 · October 10, 2005, 1:18am

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My question to all negative guppies is, just think what you did or can do to HELP people in need. This is a time to be UNITE and HELP and remember Allah and ask for repentance.

I meant was this is a time to be Unite and Help

zafar2002 · October 10, 2005, 1:21am

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Well said lalas2000.

God knows the best, what you see from your eyes as bad, may not be bad. I just give you a small example, just look at Saeed Anwar, he lost his daughter, ofcourse it was hard for him and his family, but how that incident changed his life for good?

And who are we to decide about the fate of the dead people? Who are we to say they was sinners or not sinners? Guys that is a clear Shirk. Let God decide what He almighty suppose to decide about their fate.

My question to all negative guppies is, just think what you did or can do to HELP people in need. This is a time to be UNITE and HELP and remember Allah and ask for repentance.

There should be difference between who understand God and who don't believe in him Almighty. We need to remember that God does everything for reason. Are we forgetting that this is just a temporary life. I don't need to say no more. I am sure every sensible person should understand that, who has faith in Allah.

analyze_it · October 10, 2005, 2:18am

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This is human psychology to find an explanation for natural disaster and then attribute everything to God.

SalmanNY · October 10, 2005, 2:58am

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:k:

AQ · October 10, 2005, 3:11am

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PyariCgudia:

I just wanted to share something that the Imam at our mosque shared with us today. According to him, these events are SIGNS from God. Its not necessarily a punishment, because for some people, this can be a release (for the victims, I mean). He was saying, regardless of why it happened and what the Divine Reasons were, what we should do is take it as a sign and reminder from God that Death is always near…that Death has no reason, and it doesn’t come to us after it sends some invitation. It comes when it comes, and we should live every minute of our live keeping in mind that Death might come to us any moment. We should use incidents like these at motivation - and ask ourselves are we being Good and are we being righteous, and what can we do to improve ourselves. And ask Dua for those people who have passed away.

I stopped reading all the stupid arguments of this thread after reading the above. Evidently, those are the words of a wise man.

These are really the SIGNS from Allah:swt: and we must pray for the people who suffered and help them anyway possible by sending money, checks, or whatever we can do.

This is a fact that a number of innocent died. It’s time for us to re-evaluate ourselves and rethink on the matters on which we are really trying to have a fight with ALLAH:swt: … He just shows us signs.

Also, keep in mind that Rasoolulah:saw: already foretold that a time will come when Natural clamities will become higher in numbers. The time of the hour is approaching. We should be worried about our faith and about our actions following our intentions.

Mods, please lock this thread.

We do not need this kind of useless argument at this time.

It’s the time of repentance and helping those in need.

may Allah:swt: forgive us all and guide us to the right path.

suroor_ca02 · October 10, 2005, 3:48am

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well said pcg, have to agree with the iman of ur mosque. maut to barhaq hai. death is inevitable, no matter how physically fit you are, or how rich you are or how poor you are or how sick you are. it will come when God has written its time to come and will seek any excuse to occur, natural disaster or sickness. indeed it should be a lesson to all of us to do good deeds to improve ourselves and help out each other, remember Allah and make duas for all those who died and for those who are suffering all around the world.

_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah · October 10, 2005, 4:01am

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This is a test, and I think that Pakistan has done very well. Look at the unity. See how thousands & thousands are directly and indirectly helping out, united. Inshallah, we will be rewarded.