Mullahs are considering the calamity hitting Pakistan today and causing the death of many innocent people God’s wrath. They say it is due to our sins and “amaali badh” that such tradgedy has befallen us.
It makes one wonder, is there any limit to the crookedness and self-servience of Mullahs? Instead of boosting the morale of the affectees and the nation to withstand and fight the incidence and educating them about the phenomenon and protective measures, they are using this occassion to terrify people and arouse sinful feelings in them. Their ulterior motives are to push people into a pacifistic, fatalistic, and superstitious approach to the calamity and strengthen their bonds with the Mullahiasm, the institution of supersition/darkness.
My question to them is, the victoms also include a large number of children, women, elderly, blind, deaf, disabled, and extremely poor people who obviously are innocent. Why should God punish all these innocent people for the sin of few? How can God be so indiscriminate as not to care who suffers as a result of His punitive will? How can such a strange concept of God be entertained.
Further, if Allah is ominpotent, as the belief is, why doesn’t He send a disease, for example, that targets only the sinners instead of unleashung “a blind calamity” that affects all, the innocent and sinful alike?
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i've learnt that the less you react to these idiots the better. they're a marginalized group within the collective of rational, non holier than thou, raining hellfire and earthquakes indiscriminately on people so long as they're not them or someone they love.
its in extremely poor taste that while people are still trying to help trapped ones out of the rubble, to insinuate that their superior Mullah intellect knows those still trying to gather whatever oxygen left under the concrete are in that position because they deserve it.
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and what is so wrong with some people calling it a wrath of God? How do you know it is not? Everyone is entitled to his opinion and if this is how they deal with it this is how they deal with it. Mujhay nahi samajh aati ke why every one jump on the name calling band wagon the moment someone utters the word 'Allah'. Dont we all believe ke Allah is Qadir-e-mutlique and it is his 'maslehat' in everything that happens.
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I dont agree with what mullah’s are saying!
But I think we dont have the knowledge of the hidden, allah knows better as to why all this happened! Maybe there was group of people in that building who were planning to blow up mosques that day? Maybe carry out suicide missions? maybe there were no evil people in that building. If it was allah’s azaab then ur saying why not a disease or something that only effects the ones who are evil! again allah knows better! Lets not blame anyone for anything, but what we should be doing is trying to help the people who are in need!
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what is wrong is that they dont know whether it is the wrath of Allah or a warning or a trial. Nobody is asking them not to mention Allah, but those who say “Im not surprised” have in their minds a surety about Allah’s intentions and a vindictiveness for people they dont know or care for that is worth condemning. If everyone is entitled to an opinion, then this is mine, on theirs.
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Good questions. If you believe in the muslim god then you should also consider ‘all’ of his attributes…the wrath and the mercy. Those people who died in the holiest of the months, do you think they prospered or were discriminated? You can’t gauge life after death from worldly measures.
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and dont you thing there is sometrhing wrong with you saying that it is not? ravage everyone has his own way of dealing with disasters/crisis, some cry some go in a dark room and smoke, some become hyperactive, some find a scapegoat. Let them be yaar. Finding faults in other people at this time is a political agenda of its own.
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fayz:you can make that argument for those who are dead. how about those who are permanently maimed? those who lost their loved ones? a girl on tv just called, they're a family of seven girls and they cant find their only brother who is their single means of support.
ashie, im not railing against those who genuinely feel the need to consider this Allah's wrath in order to deal with this. I am reacting against those who do not feel anything for this tragedy and can therefore say with surety that those who died deserved it. i never say with surety that it isnt Allah's wrath, I object to those who say they know it is.
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Ravage, Muslim god never promised this world to be a perfect paradise. We will all go through our set of trials and tribulations. Those girls have a tough time ahead of them for sure. May god help them get through it successfully. We don't know how this experience helps these girls in the long run.
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i know fayz, never suggested that this isnt from Allah, only object to those who say they know Allah's purpose and predictably enough choose to go with the purpose that suggests the girls deserve to fend on their own and the teenage boy on my screen deserves to hug an aid worker while another hacks his legs off to get him out.
Anyway, inna lillah wa inna ileyhi rajioon, Allah rehem karay.
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This is a no brainer at all. It’s a stupid discussion.
1- You don’t know if it was God’s wrath or endurance test
2- You don’t know if it was the above or not
3- You don’t even know if God exists or not (let’s face it, your faith is not really the proven empirical evidence widely accepted on face of earth )
4- All of above pretty much covers majority of the population on earth
So. God is irrelevent. As far as mullahs are concerened, if they really believed in God then they’d been doing lot more better things right now instead of wasting time scaring people.
Oh and btw, sure different people deal with disaster differently—and so among those are the ones who cause hysterical paranoia and make it worse
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Roman, those people who believe in god, they should see the disaster in His frame of reference, hence the relevance or else the whole belief system is a baloney.
Some will see it as wrath..some will see it as a test. A belief system is a funny thing..u don't have to know or prove anything, yet you believe based on your intellectual capacity.
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My concern here was the pacifism that the Mullahs cause with regard to life.
If they(Mullahs) are to assume a God to justify "existence" of this world and of themselves, they should at least come up with a bit reasonable concept of God; a God that wouldn't be appeased and enraged by petty things and wouldn't destroy at minor lapses.
The point is cannot they have an image of God that is unconcerned and that doesn't interfere in worldly affairs....and that has left humans to interpret, explain, and manipulate the world through their rational ability! If there is to be a God why should He be wrathful and domineering God!
Now look at the intellectual lethargy that this attitude (of Muslims) to life and nature has caused.
Other people, like Chinese, Westerners, etc. would go and find causes for natural phenomena and calamaties...would come up with practical soultions and powerful technologies...and would thus become more powerful to control nature and other human beings...but "Muslims would try to invoke mercy of Allah".....if you would consider yourself helpless, you inevitably would become helpless....
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no no, freedom of speech is for these morons only who don’t want to listen to anything thats against their beliefs. others have no right to anything, be it speech or expression.
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Yes, they have the right to speak what they want to.
The problem is they don’t give you the right to challenge their beliefs/ideas. When you do that they declare you heritic, trying to condemn you to death or making you an outcaste/sinful/sinister person out to destroy morales and disobey God.
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What's the best in all of this, whether it's a Mullah or a non-Mullah who says such things, is the reaction of the enlightened...They wish to put their feet inside the mouths of such people, call them stupid, idiots, lame, morons e.t.c....
In this case the person espousing his views to me is much more intelligent and praiseworthy...For at least he is holding some sort of a view, even if it doesn't agree with me, compared to the fire and fury of those who claim superior intelligence, intellect and education yet burn to a cinder in a jiff when faced with something they don't agree with...
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