Where's the MIGHTY MOUSE - Abdullah-K; Answer the questions put to you and stop sending this bg - petty excuse for a human being to distract!
Abdullah
I posted the set of questions @ 12:04 today which I'll re-post again. Instead of answering you have:
i)threatened to rip my belief apart, as follows:
"Faceup/Logical wrong move!!! Since you have messed with me, I challenge you to put forward your interpretation of Islam so I can take pleasure in ripping it apart."
Really!! Before you do that, pls answer questions about what you follow!
ii)threatened to rip my heart out;
iii)called my post "wrong move";
iv) etc, etc.
Listen Abdul K, I wouldn't give two bits to you and your "Shataniyat". You were hankering for a Islamic debate - I gave you one! If you get paid to 'slander' or like you said "tear my belief apart" then you are a loser!
This is my set of questions to you; PLS ANSWER THEM INDIVIDUALLY; posted September 23, 2000 12:04 PM
Could Baykhatr, Abdullah k (especially you 2)and others show me where it says:
Follow Quran & Sunnah!
You R quick to reject the other interpretation of Imamat as "the Rope" and "one of the 2 weighty things", then please:
Show me where it says that believers should look at the Sunnah for:
(1)solutions and,
(2)meanings to the Quran for all ages & eternity!
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"Show me where it says that believers should look at the Sunnah for:
(1)solutions and,
(2)meanings to the Quran for all ages & eternity!"
Believers should not look into Sunnah for solutions, and the meaning to the Quran.
Believers must look for solutions and meaning to Quran in Quran itself.
"Do not move your tongue (O Muhammad) in anticipation of Quran. It is we who put it together as a Quran. Once we recite it, you shall follow it. Then, it is we who explain it." (75:16-19)
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Faceup…>>Could Baykhatr, Abdullah k (especially you 2)and others show me where it says:
Follow Quran & Sunnah!<<
I dont understand why you are directing this question to me. We have never had any exchange b4. But I have my pleasure answering it for you.
The Prophet is ordained to explain the Message to the believers:
“We have revealed this remembrance to you so that you may explain to the people clearly that which has been sent down to them and may be they themselves contemplate” (16:44).
The verse establishes that though the human beings for whom the Quran is revealed are required to ponder over it themselves yet interpretation and explanation thereof has to be undertaken by the Messenger himself whose duty it is to channel their understanding into correct avenues.
The Quran declares that the Prophet,swaw, does never speak out of his own desire. Whatever he utters is nothing but revelation vouchsafed to him. Look here
“By the star when it goes down,(or vanishes),Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.” (53:1-4)
When asked to describe the conduct of the holy Prophet, Syeda Ayesha said, “His conduct was the Quran.” (Muslim)
Interesting.. would you like to tell me who led the prayers in the last year of prophet's life?
BG..
Do you offer salat?... tell me in what sura of quran is it explained on how to offer prayers..
I can save you the trouble, no where.. It is only through the sunna that we now know how to offer the salat.
I completely agree with the fact that one should not look only at sunna for everything.. the first point of reference should be Quran.. if the explanation does not come to the reader then sunna should be consulted.. no the other way around.
Mr. Nanga,
Come with proof before accusing anyone of anything. I saw my name in there and question you about accusing me. Prove your accusation or suffer. Mr. Nanga, you can get into deep legal problems if you dont give up your nasty approcah, an advice in advance, you will be thankful later. Jitna ziyada cheekho gay utna ziyada nukhsan uthao gay.
Humble Brother,
Dont worry about any accusations this nanga or something is doing against you. Just keep doing the jihad that you are doing. I remember you once said, Have faith in Allah. Please dont give up brother, I really like your articles. As I mentioned before, if you have any questions ask me.
At least Humble is clear about who he is! You have constantly asserted that u r sunni but have greatly admrired Humble's accusations about Hazrat Ayesha and other Sahabas. U totally agree with Humble and never gone against his views. Sometimes shias here have also told him to calm down a little.
As u r sunni by ur faith , do u consider Hazrat Abu Bakr as the first Imam after Prophet Muhammed and Hazrat Ali as fourth. Dont go around the question just answer that.
Keep yelling mr. degas,
You are so ignorant. You do not have respect for anybody here. Go learn some manners before you talk to me. I am ahlesunnah muslim but I have respect for other, not like you. If irrational behavior might cause many of us to go towards them, be careful.
Try to learn how to defend your religion before yelling.
The answer to your question is "YES". He was khalifa, not Imam though.
~farooq~
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FarooqA,
"Try to learn how to defend your religion before yelling"
I thought u and I have the same religion and I thought u were not shia but anyone can read ur posts and know what u r. I find inspiration in Imam Jaffa Sadiq and consider following his laws. See who is yelling all the time. I again ask u the above question.
Next time say faith not religion!! Both shia and sunni faith have the same religion if I am thinking right.
How about Hazrat Ayesha.
Who was the first Imam?
Hazrat Abu Bakr was the first Caliph - in accordance with the Arabian shura process;
while,
Hazrat Ali was the First Imam/Caliph - in accordance with the Prophet's instruction at Ghadeer-e-Khum; Quran and the Abrahamic traditions.
Degas,
There is no first or second here. I an hanbali and therefore I follow Imam Hanbal (r.a). Another thing is, you are NOT my master of prophet or teacher, therefore I am NOT obliged to answer any of your stupid question. Got it Mr.
No more stupid questions, keep your limited vocabulary to yourself.
I am happy from your name that u r greatly inspired by Hazrat Umer(R.A) and his magnificient rule 10-11 years in which Islamic order was prevailing with social justice reaching its peak.
I am not into challenges. Do u think what u r getting from Immamt is autentic than sunnah. How r u sure that words of imam r truly reaching u.
Sorry that I have to leave now and complete my Linux installation in School. Would reach u in the eve. or tomorrow. I never said I have more knowledge than u. Now I just remember this from Quran.
"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, leave it. And fear Allah: truly Allah is severe in punishment. " [Qur'an 59:7]