When men start going against Islam and abuse the person they were entrusted with, a woman will have no choice but to stand up for herself and do BOTH roles. We all belong to Allah and you are supposed to be a woman’s protector - NOT ABUSER.
If she goes to sleep with a bloody nose, you are failing. If she goes to sleep crying because your parents don’t like her and had to hear them fill your ears with bakwaas, you are failing. If she goes to sleep not knowing her worth and value in your life, you are failing. She is your RESPONSIBILITY and her well being is your primary role as a man. The man is provider…for who? His family…the family that consists of his WIFE and children she births. These are real failures and when you keep abusing a system, eventually it fails. Stop abusing the system and things will be fine.
What are the **responsibilities **of a man? Instead of answering the question with a question, just answer it. This thread is FULL of a woman’s restrictions but I have yet to read a post on GS where a man was actually aware of his duties.
Islam is not misogynistic but Pakistani men have changed the faith and I would not be surprised if they wanted to re-write the Qur’an at some point (Nauzubillah).
Because many of the proposed laws, does not demand sufficient proof of allegations. And often is in conflicts with the Islamic law, thus does not provide the victim with the justice she needs, and often makes someone else the victim due to the unfairness of the proposed laws.
Well this is not how it is,
but then again how is hitting or locking up a man justified if the doesnt obey the domestic violence law. Shouldnt he also be free to do as he wills.. for her safety of course..
Since ppl r fine not following Allah’s laws, then what value shall we put to the man made laws and why should they be followed?
can you tell me whats ur issue with pakistani islam and how is it in real islam,
Lol u keep on blaming molvi, can you show me one case where someone has threatened a woman on tv as u said.
Who said anyone justified beating,
are we talking of molvis here or islam, when i say something of sharia u bring molvis, why dont u bring whats in sharia and islam..
Well thats true, even men need to be marriage to protect himself.
where does the fashion industry come from :s ur going all over the place..
Its mostly coming from the west tho,
what logic is this that coz of the fashion industry one cannot talk of gherah, :s can u explain plz
trust me in Pak even men cannot go to the police and report anything, they will just make them go away..
So if its a shameful and failed state what has religion gotta do with it? as i said u r all over the place…
from talk of principles u go to talk of examples, to talk of state to talk of molvies coz there is nothing else to say,
Ohhhhhh…so you’re upset about the poor men? After they beat their wives, they may have to suffer a little bit so that makes them a victim? Yes, that is so unfair. Poor Pakistani men.
The way u r talking, suggests something bad had happened with u, but I know many times women r also so abusive..
and I have personally never seen a man beat up his wife ever or heard of such..
u look at the very extremes,
Its mostly women who treat their men bad, Prophet said majority of the people of hell will be women due to them not being grateful to their husbands. so now you can better understand of who is abusing the other more..
I have not seen any cases as you stated, not sure which families are you talking about. And as I said if women are not working, as you agreed, then who is providing for them.. no man i know backs off from this responsibility.
well I didnt ask a question for a question, I asked first so you tell me, what are the rights of a wife on her husband,.
Well as of now we see more feminist type ppl wishing to change and re-wright the religion.
She was divorced lol and it happened in US…The funny thing is she blames Pakistan for her divorce and thinks every Pakistani man is like her Ex… Her past has made her an extremist, try to understand her fustration.
U have difficulty understanding,
any law requires establishing that indeed the defendant has committed the crime, you just cannot punish anyone coz someone says so.
And for your info Zubair (ra) who was from the 10 sahabas who were said to be in jannah by name use to beat his wife (since you keep on coming back to beating) now will you also suggest prisoning him in Pakistani prison? coz according to you they should be in prison.
And his wife was the daughter of Abu bakra (ra) so do u suggest now that women of this day has surpassed levels of those woman ?
Now be just to urself, do you suggest prisoning Zubair (ra) for this behaviour ? Do you call it Pakistani Islam?
This is just one example from the many… so how can you declare something haram which Allah has made halal?
Women in Pakistan…just like the women in the West…also “need” marriage because it’s a natural desire. Because they want companionship apart from that of their parents, siblings, and plutonic friends. Because they want children. Wanting comfort, stability, and a protection or a “sahara” is something that even men want. It’s not just a “Pakistani woman” thing…it’s a human thing.
No one will bat an eye at your life as a single woman in the US? You’re wrong here as well. Single women in the US may face less of a stigma, but it’s still there. I haven’t seen my Desi “friends” in years. You wanna know why? Because they prefer the company of other women who are married and have children like themselves. And it’s not just the Desi women. The “spinster with so many cats” stereotype is also a part of Western society. Even the single goriyan will feel excluded from the social circles of their married friends. It’s a reality. It exists. Yes, single women in the West have greater scope in terms of employment and protection and there is greater ease in living independently, traveling, etc. But I still don’t believe that this kind of life (be it out of personal choice or circumstance) is wholly free of stereotypes and pressure and judgment…not even in the west.
If we’re gonna debate an issue effectively, then attention has to be given to wording. If we make blanket statements about a particular group/gender/race…we’re gonna run into trouble. Our parents may have been living in the US for years and they may very well prefer the life here to that of Pakistan. But for many of us, the fact remains that our parents were born and raised in Pakistan. Our moms ARE …“Pakistani women” …and our dads ARE… “Pakistani men”…born and raised in the motherland (whether for a short duration or otherwise).
He was born in Pakistan but raised in the US. We have a beautiful boy together Alhumdulillah