Re: The halal-ity of your food.
So I'm a little confused here..
I was told by one of my Imams that it's rude to ask about the meat if you're being invited by one of the Muslim families, and you just assume that it's halal. Most of the Muslims I know (the ones eating non-halal) bring it up beforehand and ask if halal/non-halal matters to me and then I tell them. Ofcourse I wouldn't know about others because they never bring it up.
I ALWAYS mention it when being invited by non-muslims though.
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
I think when most people say halal, they mean zabiha.
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
So I'm a little confused here..
I was told by one of my Imams that it's rude to ask about the meat if you're being invited by one of the Muslim families, and you just assume that it's halal. Most of the Muslims I know (the ones eating non-halal) bring it up beforehand and ask if halal/non-halal matters to me and then I tell them. Ofcourse I wouldn't know about others because they never bring it up.
I ALWAYS mention it when being invited by non-muslims though.
This is what I was told too.
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So then its halal we should be on the look out for and not necessarily zabiha.. Cuz obviously god has said eat flesh of that that had gods name taken when being slaughtered and kosher orzabiha is only when there is nothing else available halal...
No. I think what you are looking for is zabiha. Kosher meat is "halal" for you, but zabiha is specially slaughtered Islamically. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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^ sahar kosher meat is Zibah but Not halal, Halal means they cut animal with the name of Allah so that animal becomEs Halal to eat .
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Kosher meat is Zibah,coz they Zibah animal the same way we muslims do,but when we Zibah animal with the name of ALLAH it becomes Halal.
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
No. I think what you are looking for is zabiha. Kosher meat is "halal" for you, but zabiha is specially slaughtered Islamically. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
This is my understanding too.A local grocery store just advertised that they are selling 'halal' chicken.But the package does not mention that it is zabihah halal.
My understanding is that halal is sth that is permissible and haram is something which is not.Zabihah halal is what we Muslims want.That is a chicken(or any other halal meat,that is goat or beef etc) slaughtered according to the Muslim way.
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Kosher meat is Zibah,coz they Zibah animal the same way we muslims do,but when we Zibah animal with the name of ALLAH it becomes Halal.
Aren't you confusing the two...??...Someone correct me if I am wrong...
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The kosher people only Zibah animals the same way we muslims do,but they (kosher) don’t say Bismilah or Allah Akbar,so kosher is not halal but is Zibah , we are only permit to eat kosher when halal is not available,
And we muslims Zibah animals with the name of ALLAH,hence it’s Zibah and Halal.
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Kosher meat is Zibah,coz they Zibah animal the same way we muslims do,but when we Zibah animal with the name of ALLAH it becomes Halal.
No it isn't its the other way around.
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No Sara,you can ask any imam about this.
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if anyone is still confused Read third paraghrap Here.
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Man am I happy i dont havta deal with these extra definitions :d
I asked the imam here and he said its only halal ifgod's name is taken at time of slaughtering
Its kosher if its cut the same way muslims cut animals, ie, by makng a slit across the throat and letting the vlood drain, BUT allah's name is not taken. This meat is only permissable if halal meat is not available. Tuis kinda meat is not halal but it isnt haram...its kosher.
And if the animal isnt cut at all but electocuted, its haram.
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I'm so happy we don't have to deal with any such issues... it's sooo hard finding 'halal' places to eat! My family has always had a hard time...
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We know a muslim family that eats non-halal outside and inside the home. But whenever we go to their house they make sure it is halal. I find that weird because it is available to them and they don't have to eat meat outside but then again it is their choice (Also I don't mean to offend anyone). With our other relatives we don't have that problem because they always eat halal.
Whenever we eat out we usually look for the halal certificate, otherwise we eat vegetarian stuff or fish.
My friend who is indian and non- muslim whenever i go to her house her mum makes halal food specially for us which is very nice of her.
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This is distinguishing between what is required for Muslims and what is required for Jews. It is not dealing with the nuance of the zabiha definition.
The general term “halal” is for what is permissable to us. Some people also use Halal to refer to the specific way Muslims slaughter meat. That specific kind of Halal is also considered Zabiha. But Halal can be a more general term, which is why the word zabiha has come into use.
Chips, I think if the halal certificate is on it, they mean zabiha. I could be wrong, but I think it means they have slaughtered according to Muslim guidelines.
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Kinzz I believe you have it all wrong!
Like Lusi and others have stated Halal is what we can eat and Zabiha halal is the way the animal is salaughtered
While the terminology is wrong, many people use halal as Zabiha halal and haram for everything non-zabiha ............ only some will mention zabiha vs non-zabiha halal
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And now there's this issue of machine slaughtered vs. hand slaughtered. So for example, the Midamar company puts their chickens on a strip, the muslim butches reads his required chantings randomly and turns the machines on. Ulema are now rejecting this method of slaughtering. In the US, Crescent chicken is hand slaughtered.
I tell ya we were better off knowing all this stuff :( Once the seed gets planted , you're always thinking should I should I not.
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Hmm I think I would like to know what I am consuming because I feel I am responsible for myself, I've heard somewhere that namaz and dua is not accepted for 40 days after consuming haram, now that would be a huge loss in my opinion, I don't think this is applicable if you are under the impression that food was halal and it was unintentional.
I never questioned anybody because I trust the families we visit are getting their meat from the same sources we are and have the same perception on what is zabihah halal and are in agreement with our values.
Inside the home we consume zabihah halal, and outside of the home a halal certificate or vegetarian, and fish will do.