Re: The halal-ity of your food.
Thanks GOD , i live in a muslim country. No such issue. I worked in USA for few years and sometimes when i go to lunch with my collegues. i just sit there staring at menue card as what to order and most of the time ended up with baked fish. One of my collegue use to make fun of this that u came to this place and u ordered fish.
so much peace of mind here now, eat whatever u want and wherever u want.
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So peoples, can I rely on this website for information on the halal-ity of my food? If it lists the food as halal or there’s a qualification saying it’s halal unless the ingredients list alcohol in the flavouring, I should be good, right?
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I am totally confused. Are you talking about halal chicken or zabiha chicken because these two words are very different. We eat chicken that's not zabiha outside at restaurants but we have always gone to detroit to get zabiha meat for our home and dawats. I am not sure what context halal word is being used here..
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I think its common decency to cater to the dietary needs of your invited guests.If I am doing a dawat of people who are particular about the halal/zabiha stuff then I will make sure to cook only that.
But it is totally rude of people to invite themelves at someone's place at the last minute and then inquire about the halality of food.
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Thanks GOD , i live in a muslim country. No such issue. I worked in USA for few years and sometimes when i go to lunch with my collegues. i just sit there staring at menue card as what to order and most of the time ended up with baked fish. One of my collegue use to make fun of this that u came to this place and u ordered fish. so much peace of mind here now, eat whatever u want and wherever u want.
I have been to lunch many times with my collegues here in the US and no one has said a word about why I order fish. Religious issues aside, many non-Muslims are vegetarians and don't order meat items other than fish.
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I am totally confused. Are you talking about halal chicken or zabiha chicken because these two words are very different. We eat chicken that's not zabiha outside at restaurants but we have always gone to detroit to get zabiha meat for our home and dawats. I am not sure what context halal word is being used here..
Hmm .. so I have never heard the word zabiha before, but from the last page, this is what I understood.
Halal - used when we are allowed to eat certain things, like chicken, lamb etc etc.
Zabiha - the way it has been slaughtered, meaning Muslim way.
But from where I am, we refer "halal" to the way of slaughtering. So for me a chicken isn't halal until it has been slaughtered according to Muslim ways while for some people (who use the word zabiha) chicken is halal without being slaughtered muslim way, and its zabiha when its slaughtered muslim way. Indeed, all this zabiha vs. halal is VERY confusing! I dont understand where the word Zabiha is coming from? Because although my parents are raised in Pakistan/Uk, they both only refer to meat as being Halal when it is slaughtered properly. :s
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Hmm .. so I have never heard the word zabiha before, but from the last page, this is what I understood.
Halal - used when we are allowed to eat certain things, like chicken, lamb etc etc.
Zabiha - the way it has been slaughtered, meaning Muslim way.
But from where I am, we refer "halal" to the way of slaughtering. So for me a chicken isn't halal until it has been slaughtered according to Muslim ways while for some people (who use the word zabiha) chicken is halal without being slaughtered muslim way, and its zabiha when its slaughtered muslim way. Indeed, all this zabiha vs. halal is VERY confusing! I dont understand where the word Zabiha is coming from? Because although my parents are raised in Pakistan/Uk, they both only refer to meat as being Halal when it is slaughtered properly. :s
Basically, chicken is halal. So is beef, or mutton. Why? Because they're not pork. However, it's not ok for Muslims to eat these 3 meats unless they've been slaughtered in the correct, i.e: Zabiha way, where the animal's blood must be drained from the body in the correct way. The reason people are differentiating between Zabiha and halal is because there are some people who think it is alright to go to a restaurant, KFC for example, and eat the chicken there, because it isn't a forbidden animal. However, people who are stricter with the halal-ness of their food wouldn't order from KFC abroad because the chicken has not necessarily been slaughtered in the Zabiha way. So when someone inquires about the meat being Zabiha halal, they're making sure the meat is OK for them to eat. Does this make sense?
Disclaimer: do not want to sound judgemental in any way of people who eat non-Zabiha meat, am just trying to explain the difference.
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Not all chicken is "halal." My understanding is that for meat to be halal, it needs to be slaughtered/prepared by "People of the book" -- so if it's done by Christians or Jews, it is acceptable. Zabiha meat is specifically done according to Muslim guidelines, and is preferred.
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^Sahar02, all chicken is halal, in the sense that Allah hasn't forbidden us from eating it. Pork, however, is haram, even if you went ahead and slaughtered correctly, or had it done by Christians because Allah has expressly forbidden its consumption.
I am not sure you're correct in saying that if "People of the Book" slaughter animals it is acceptable (though I know Kosher is ok for Muslims to eat in less desirable circumstances).
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^ Yeah, I know what you mean.
When I studied the verse, I thought it said that meat from the People of the Book is acceptable. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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^I have a feeling you're mistaken, but let me double-check. :)
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Thanks GOD , i live in a muslim country. No such issue. I worked in USA for few years and sometimes when i go to lunch with my collegues. i just sit there staring at menue card as what to order and most of the time ended up with baked fish. One of my collegue use to make fun of this that u came to this place and u ordered fish. so much peace of mind here now, eat whatever u want and wherever u want.
mm hi. bulk of the meat consumed in the middle east (i assume thats where you are?) comes from non-muslim countries. companies like Sadia (which by pure coincidence sounds like a muslim name, they also have a flourishing pork slaughtering business) that are publically traded in the US stock markets, and operates out of brazil are the largest suppliers. their meat is machine slaughtered, with tape-recorded audio takbeer message played in a loop. so umm.. hello baked fishie! ; )
ok maybe i exaggerate.. but really, unless your meat is local, its probably just as suspect as in any meat store in the US.
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
mm hi. bulk of the meat consumed in the middle east (i assume thats where you are?) comes from non-muslim countries. companies like Sadia (which by pure coincidence sounds like a muslim name, they also have a flourishing pork slaughtering business) that are publically traded in the US stock markets, and operates out of brazil are the largest suppliers. their meat is machine slaughtered, with tape-recorded audio takbeer message played in a loop. so umm.. hello baked fishie! ; )
ok maybe i exaggerate.. but really, unless your meat is local, its probably just as suspect as in any meat store in the US.
Trust me, all food items coming into arabia are VERY halal.
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
Basically, chicken is halal. So is beef, or mutton. Why? Because they're not pork. However, it's not ok for Muslims to eat these 3 meats unless they've been slaughtered in the correct, i.e: Zabiha way, where the animal's blood must be drained from the body in the correct way. The reason people are differentiating between Zabiha and halal is because there are some people who think it is alright to go to a restaurant, KFC for example, and eat the chicken there, because it isn't a forbidden animal. However, people who are stricter with the halal-ness of their food wouldn't order from KFC abroad because the chicken has not necessarily been slaughtered in the Zabiha way. So when someone inquires about the meat being Zabiha halal, they're making sure the meat is OK for them to eat. Does this make sense?
Disclaimer: do not want to sound judgemental in any way of people who eat non-Zabiha meat, am just trying to explain the difference.
I think that is pretty much how I understood it too, although for me a chicken is only halal when it has been slaughtered the proper way, because thats how I have been raised and thats how we do it in my resident country. You do not label a chicken halal unless it has been slaughtered the Muslim way here.
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^Ditto for me. :)
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mm hi. bulk of the meat consumed in the middle east (i assume thats where you are?) comes from non-muslim countries. companies like Sadia (which by pure coincidence sounds like a muslim name, they also have a flourishing pork slaughtering business) that are publically traded in the US stock markets, and operates out of brazil are the largest suppliers. their meat is machine slaughtered, with tape-recorded audio takbeer message played in a loop. so umm.. hello baked fishie! ; )
ok maybe i exaggerate.. but really, unless your meat is local, its probably just as suspect as in any meat store in the US.
ohhh please dont tel me. i did used Sadia chicken few times. that means i should stop buying chicken from these grocery stores. so what about red meat, i always used meat that comes from Pakistan. but i am sure there will be some kind of check /supervision on this issue.
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I have been to lunch many times with my collegues here in the US and no one has said a word about why I order fish. Religious issues aside, many non-Muslims are vegetarians and don't order meat items other than fish.
some people can digest the issue of being vegetarian but not religion.
My collegues were very nice and he was a nice person as well but he had this habbit of making fun .
Re: The halal-ity of your food.
mm hi. bulk of the meat consumed in the middle east (i assume thats where you are?) comes from non-muslim countries. companies like Sadia (which by pure coincidence sounds like a muslim name, they also have a flourishing pork slaughtering business) that are publically traded in the US stock markets, and operates out of brazil are the largest suppliers. their meat is machine slaughtered, with tape-recorded audio takbeer message played in a loop. so umm.. hello baked fishie! ; )
ok maybe i exaggerate.. but really, unless your meat is local, its probably just as suspect as in any meat store in the US.
You are qute right about this because a good friend of mine from Saudi told me that if we ever went to hajj, we should be sure to ask the places we eat at if their meat is "watani" meaning local...as imported meat doesn't always pass the criteria for halal zabiha even if it says it is.
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Trust me, all food items coming into arabia are VERY halal.
Not anymore. The demand is high and supply of local freshly slaughtered zabiha meat is less so they are importing from companies that say halal but if you're concerned about hand slaughtered or machine slaughtered then it's mostly the latter and a lot of folks aren't OK with that.