The American Campaign to Suppress Islam

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*Originally posted by Chaltahai: *
Wasn't there slavery under the previous supposed perfect systems?

Why change?
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Very true, Chaltahai! Still going on in certain regions, too.

While a favorite target of West Bashers, the American slave trade represents only a small fraction of the Arab and the Islamic world's long history of the practice and promotion of slavery. I've posted links on this before, but, I'm afraid the comments hit a little to close to home for some of the mods.

Let's face it...the ignorant are easier to manipulate.

Peace To All Who Read This...

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Lies, damn lies and propaganda – The War on Iraq

John MacArthur, publisher of Harper’s Magazine and author of “Second Front: Censorship and Propaganda in the Gulf War,” says that considering the number of senior officials shared by both Bush administrations, the American public should bear in mind the lessons of Gulf War propaganda.

“These are all the same people who were running it more than 10 years ago,” Mr. MacArthur says. “They’ll make up just about anything … to get their way.”

US Rep. Lee Hamilton (D) of Indiana, a 34-year veteran lawmaker until 1999, who served on numerous foreign affairs and intelligence committees, and is now director of the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars in Washington. The Bush team “understands it has not yet carried the burden of persuasion [about an imminent Iraqi threat], so they will look for any kind of evidence to support their premise,” Mr. Hamilton says. “I think we have to be sceptical about it.”

“This administration is capable of any lie … in order to advance its war goal in Iraq,” says a US government source in Washington with some two decades of experience in intelligence, who would not be further identified. “It is one of the reasons it didn’t want to have UN weapons inspectors go back in, because they might actually show that the probability of Iraq having [threatening illicit weapons] is much lower than they want us to believe.”

Propaganda is an effective tool in any war campaign. The US in particular have been responsible for some of the most imposing spin manoeuvres and disinformation campaigns, no more so than that which occurred during the Gulf War in 1991, the lessons of which are especially significant today as the US again gears up to attack the Muslims of Iraq in another attempt to impose its hegemony upon the region.

Most notorious was the work of PR giant Hill & Knowlton (H&K) for whom current Pentagon spokesperson Torie Clarke worked, after she was an aide to John McCain and Bush’s dad. Subsidized by the Kuwaiti royal family at the tune of $10 million, H&K dedicated 119 executives in 12 offices across the country to the job of drumming up support within the United States for the 1991 war. Tens of thousands of “Free Kuwait” T-shirts and bumper stickers were distributed at colleges across the US and setting up observances such as National Kuwait Day and National Student Information Day. H&K also mailed 200,000 copies of a book titled “The Rape of Kuwait” to American troops stationed in the Middle East. The firm also manipulated reporters, arranging interviews with handpicked Kuwaiti emissaries and dispatching reams of footage of burning wells and oil-slicked birds washed ashore.

[Full article](http://www.khilafah.com/home/category.php?
DocumentID=6010&TagID=1)

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Of course America is surpressing Islam because muslims are oppsoed to the Western ideology of Capitalistism whcih treat the world inahbitants as mere cattle fodder.

..... for the past 12 months since the attacks, in the last 365 days western bombs have landed only on Muslim countries, masses of innocents have died only in Muslim countries and Western military bases have been established only in Muslim countries.

In the past 12 month never before has the discussion on Islam and Muslims engrossed the media as it does now.

In the past 12 month we have been bombarded by programmes and articles from newspapers to television and all that’s in between urging us to redefine Islam, to reconsider Allah’s words, to make His Deen more palatable to western tastes, and to accept the West’s political culture.

In the past 12 month we have seen the unjustified crackdown on Islamic individuals some detained for months without trial and without a shred of evidence with new laws issued under the pretext of combating terrorism to facilitate this.

In the past 12 month we have witnessed a Muslim genocide in India crimes that have been conveniently overlooked by the Western governments. We have witnessed the mass murder and genocide of our brothers in Palestine at the hands of the Butcher Sharon crimes committed with Western weapons under the watchful encouraging and endorsing eye of the US.

In the past 12 month the despots, rulers of the Muslim world, the puppets of the Western Governments, Musharaf, Karimov and their likes have turned their attention to deconstruct Islam and secularise their countries at America’s orders. Launching their mini wars against Islamic groups, mosques, madrassas and all opposition to their tyrannical and kuffur rule.

In the past 12 month a single so called terrorist organisation is yet to be apprehended, dismantled, arrested or destroyed.

The question begs; where is this War on Terrorism? Or is this merely a front for a war on Islam and the Muslims?

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why is this in the Religion Forum.. take that khilafa crap to the World AFfairs forum please..

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Britain admits oil key foreign policy concern

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has pinpointed for the first time security of energy sources as a priority of British foreign policy.

Mr Straw listed energy as one of seven foreign policy priorities when he addressed a meeting of 150 British ambassadors. The United States and British Governments officially deny that oil is a factor in the looming war with Iraq, but some British ministers say privately that oil is more important in the calculation than weapons of mass destruction.

These ministers have pointed to the instability of oil sources - the Middle East, Caspian region and Algeria - and the need for secure alternatives. Iraq has the second-biggest known oil reserves in the world.

Mr Straw told ambassadors the Foreign Office drew up a list of seven medium to long-term strategic priorities, including the need "to bolster the security of British and global energy supplies". A Foreign Office source said: "I can't say that energy is irrelevant (to the Iraq conflict) but the issue is one we would have to deal with, even if Saddam was a cuddly individual."

The Foreign Office insists that the main motivation in the confrontation is fear that Iraq has, or intends to develop, biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. Mr Straw put the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism atop his list. Other priorities include minimising threats from excessive migration, transnational crime, Islamic extremism and to maintain a stable international system based on the rule of law.

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Capitalism is NOT a religion.

Get it? Got it? Good.

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This is Capitalism:

Things which the US can claim it is the world leader in:

• In firearm deaths

• In per-capita energy use

• In carbon dioxide emissions [more than Australia, Brazil, Canada, France, India, Indonesia, Germany, Italy, Mexico, and the United Kingdom combined]

• In total and per capita municipal waste [720 kilograms per person per year]

• In hazardous waste produced [by a factor of more than twenty times their nearest competitor, Germany]

• In oil consumption

• In natural gas consumption

• In the least amount of federal and state government expenditure [as a percentage of GDP]

• In daily per-capita consumption of calories

• In lowest voter turnout

• In fewest numbers of political parties represented in the lower or single house

• In recorded rapes [by a factor of almost three times the nearest competitor - Canada]

• In injuries and deaths from road accidents [almost twice as many as runner-up Canada]

• Number one among countries in the United Nations with a legally constituted government to not ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child

• In number of known executions of child offenders

• In likelihood of children under the age of fifteen to die from gunfire

• In likelihood of children under the age of fifteen to commit suicide with a gun

• In lowest eighth-grade mathematics scores

Dossier against the West

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*Originally posted by Jagjeevan: *
where is kalifa if it is still around after 1400 years?
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it's not around at the moment but i'll let you know when it returns.

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no you won't...it's dead cremated and ashes dissolved...gone kaput. and it can never raise its ugly head again because it is nothing else but another form of islamic fundamentalism and as you know even orthodox muslims are running away from such fundamentalism.

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Kosser , are u a follower of abdul qadeem zaloom ?

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*Originally posted by eemo: *
Kosser , are u a follower of abdul qadeem zaloom ?
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I am a follower of Islam.

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from the way you are talking, you are interating the things his followers would say.

insinuating that this war on iraq is all about oil.

do you think that when a country goes to war, it goes to war for the material gain ? these are the bonuses , but they're not their main motive.

Look at the colonialists, they conquered land to rule. the capitalists are their to spread their idealogy.

If it was oil they were after, then why arent they heading towards the caspian sea? america has enough oil in its back garden for goodness sake

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Please read the following..

The True Motives Behind The Impending Colonial War on Iraq

On the anniversary of the start of the US war in Afghanistan, in Cincinnati, Ohio, George Bush delivered a speech attempting to string together a convincing argument to launch a war against Iraq. In unison British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw was also on a tour of the Middle East and Persian Gulf, discussing with Saddam’s neighbours the possibilities of an upcoming war.

Despite the numerous attempts that the British and American governments are putting forward, it should be clear that this will be a colonial war based on furthering their own strategic, political and economic interests. By reviewing the arguments that are put forward to provide a rationale to attack Iraq their absurdity becomes apparent. This should prompt us to scrutinise the true and real motives behind this impending war. The following are some of the key reasons for going to war with Iraq that have been outlined by Bush and Blair:

  1. The first claim made about Iraq is that it is in material breach of numerous UN resolutions. George Bush in his address to the UN General Assembly on 12 September went through a painstaking review of all the resolutions that Saddam had broken. The problem with going down this path is that other countries, notably India and Israel, have also breached UN resolutions, yet there is no sense that Tel Aviv or New Delhi are being warmed up for an imminent attack. The accusation of double standards gives too much credence to Western leaders as it assumes they have some belief in the concept of international law in the first place; they simply don’t. Conformity with international law only occurs when it coincides with national interests. The simple fact that five permanent members have a veto in an institution that is designed to represent democracy and the norms of international law would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious.

True motives

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Britain admits oil key foreign policy concern

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has pinpointed for the first time security of energy sources as a priority of British foreign policy.

Mr Straw listed energy as one of seven foreign policy priorities when he addressed a meeting of 150 British ambassadors. The United States and British Governments officially deny that oil is a factor in the looming war with Iraq, but some British ministers say privately that oil is more important in the calculation than weapons of mass destruction.

These ministers have pointed to the instability of oil sources - the Middle East, Caspian region and Algeria - and the need for secure alternatives. Iraq has the second-biggest known oil reserves in the world.

Mr Straw told ambassadors the Foreign Office drew up a list of seven medium to long-term strategic priorities, including the need “to bolster the security of British and global energy supplies”. A Foreign Office source said: “I can’t say that energy is irrelevant (to the Iraq conflict) but the issue is one we would have to deal with, even if Saddam was a cuddly individual.”

The Foreign Office insists that the main motivation in the confrontation is fear that Iraq has, or intends to develop, biological, chemical and nuclear weapons. Mr Straw put the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism atop his list. Other priorities include minimising threats from excessive migration, transnational crime, Islamic extremism and to maintain a stable international system based on the rule of law.

Britain admits Britain admits

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Iraqi Oil Strategy Divides State, White House

The question of what should happen to Iraq’s oil fields if Saddam Hussein is removed from power has become yet another source of fierce division between hawks and Republican “moderates” within the Bush administration. A sharp and very inside-the-Beltway struggle is taking place behind the scenes over planning for a post-Saddam Iraq with the future of Iraqi oil taking center-stage.

A proposal drafted by Elliott Abrams, a special assistant to President George W. Bush on the National Security Council [NSC], arguing for the United States to assert de facto control of Iraqi oil fields has stunned State Department officials. It doesn’t help that Abrams [right] was convicted of withholding information from Congress during the Iran-Contra scandal, only to receive a presidential pardon from the current president’s father. Bush-administration “moderates” have raised legal and practical objections to the Abrams proposal, arguing that only a puppet Iraqi government would acquiesce to U.S. supervision of the oil fields and that one so slavish to U.S. interests risks becoming untenable with Iraqis. Furthermore, they argue, the move would trigger a wide political backlash in the Middle East and confirm overseas suspicions that U.S. actions against Saddam are driven by oil politics.

Iraqi oil

Comment: please read through carefully, if you need more ask.

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The free worlds’ campaign is against political Islam, not Islam. It is a battle so all people will have human prosperity, happiness, welfare, freedom, equality and knowledge. Here is a link to offset the many khalifakhalifa.com dribble that is posted:

“The very statement that an Islamic republic exists somewhere means that brutal violence exists within it.”](http://www.secularislam.org/humanrights/silent.htm)

The final decades of the 20th century witnessed another Holocaust - an Islamic one, in which millions have been and continue to be shot, decapitated and stoned to death; in which people have been slaughtered and displaced by Islamic states, political Islamic movements and Islamic terrorists in Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria, Central Asia, and now in America. The robe, turban and Koran continue to victimize people. Any voice of dissent or freedom has been silenced on the spot. The oppression maintained by Islamic movements primarily takes the form of opposition to the freedom of women, by crushing women’s civil liberties, by curtailing freedom of expression in the cultural and personal domains, by enforcing brutal laws and traditions, and by the mass killing of people from young children to the elderly.

Essentially, Islam is a set of beliefs and rules that militate against human prosperity, happiness, welfare, freedom, equality and knowledge. Islam and a full human life are contradictory concepts, opposed to each other. Islam under any kind of interpretation is and always has been a strong force against secularism, modernism, egalitarianism and women’s rights. Political Islam, however, is a political movement that has come to the fore against secular and progressive movements for liberation, and against cultural and intellectual advances. Violence and disregard for human dignity are inherent in the manifestos of political Islamic groups…

…The mere fact that people are forced to abide by laws based on something some god is believed to have said somewhere, or that some prophet has said, itself represents a form of violence. If anyone protests against such laws, they are subject to punishment and suppression. Islam means the worst and the most ferocious kind of violence. Iran is the most transparent picture of what Islam is capable of…

..The aftermath of September 11 exposed some of the reality of what is happening to people living under the constant terror of Islam. It exposed something of the tragedy that befell women under the Taliban. It revealed, to some extent, the true substance of Islam. But it became plain to see that this carnage is Islamic. It became evident that it is all about Islam…

…The truth should be spoken. We shouldn’t let apologists for Islam play with people’s lives any more. We should say clearly and loudly that it is all about Islam. What we have seen is the reality of Islam in power. The fact is that Western liberal and left-wing intellectuals feel guilty about past colonial history and are apologetic to the ‘Third World’. They consider the ‘Third World’ a given entity, where people are keen to suffer under the rotten rules of Islam, where people are happy to be deprived of the achievements of human civilization in the 21st century. According to them, women desire sexual apartheid, girls love to be segregated from boys, and people hate civil rights and individual freedom. In their view, people are the allies of Islamic movements and Islamic governments. This is indeed a distorted image of the realities. This is an inverted colonialism. In this picture, people who are fighting for civil rights, secularism and against political Islam do not exist. This self-centered mentality in which everything should revolve around the guilt of Western pseudo-intellectuals is appalling. The rights of freedom of expression, equality of men and women, and a secular state apply to people in the ‘Third World’ too. Isn’t it shameful that we have to argue about it?

Secularism must be defended actively and resolutely in Islam - ridden countries. Universal human and civil rights must be the standard. Secularism is not only realizable, but also, after the experiences of Iran, Afghanistan, the Sudan and Algeria, is an urgent and pressing need and demand of the people of the region. The demand for secularism must push for absolute and complete separation of religion from the State; complete separation of religion from education; freedom of religion and atheism; laws free of religious content; and for religion to be declared the private affair of individuals. A conscious struggle must be conducted against the power of organised religion. All religious denominations and sects should be officially registered as private enterprises, subject to regulations and laws.

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Secularism must be defended in Islam :rolleyes:

Is this joke hour or something!

Ok seminole you have made your stance clear you are a secular extremist who wants to see secularism a system of kufr to be implemented on muslims.

That is like asking a muslim to disbelive in his creator and say man has the more ability and knowledge than allah(swt) astagfirullah!

Do you know what you are calling for with this secularism nonsense. The greeks disbanded secularism and democracy tens of thousands of years ago because is caused chaos and anarchy and now you wish to see muslims involved in something which is so bankrupt and flawed it has more holes than swiss cheese!

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Seminole: *
The free worlds' campaign is against political Islam, not Islam. It is a battle so all people will have human prosperity, happiness, welfare, freedom, equality and knowledge. Here is a link to offset the many khalifakhalifa.com dribble that is posted:

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Islam is political by nature, it is not like Hinduism, Christianity, Sikhism, or any other isms. Islam is an ideology which has a belief, and a system to implement that belief. So attacking political Islam is attacking Islam! How can a mere spiritual belief rule for 1400 years it is impossible. Islam ruled for 1400 years with its unique political system of Khilafah. This system was for Muslims and non Muslims. And now is the alternative system to the rotten decaying system of Capitalism…

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*Originally posted by Kosser_M: *
And now is the alternative system to the rotten decaying system of Capitalism…
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You mean like the rotten decayed system of khalifah that died out with the advent of modern thinking and principles? It's already dead.

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Seminole: *
You mean like the rotten decayed system of khalifah that died out with the advent of modern thinking and principles? It's already dead.
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I think you should stick to the topic of the thread.

BTW the system is not dead it's sleeping and is about to awake.

The silence is about to break.............

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America started to spread Capitalism from the moment she went out to the world as a colonialist state, because colonialism both in its old or new form is the method for spreading this ideology. However, what has emerged recently is that since the domination internationally of its ideology, America has begun to campaign to make it prevail in the whole world. And in the same way that it succeeded with the help of the other Capitalist states in making Capitalism the foundation of the international relationships and traditions, it now wants it to be the way of life for all the nations and peoples of the globe. Based upon this plan the people are not only to implement Capitalism as systems and laws but also to embrace its creed, and take its thoughts, its own concepts, criteria and convictions in all the domains of life and not simply be satisfied by merely implementing it.

America had endeavoured to make the Capitalist ideology the basis of international relations, traditions and laws, since the establishment of the United Nations, when it made the Capitalist traditions the cornerstone of the convention of this international organization. Yet in reality America could not succeed in achieving this goal whilst the Soviet Union still led the Eastern camp on the basis of Socialism and imposed the presence of its ideology internationally and in the world.

So Moscow was able to prevent the absolute domination of Capitalism internationally by exploiting the hardship and slavery suffered by colonized nations and peoples, which resulted from the oppression, injustice and greed of the colonialist Western states. So it waged a fierce campaign world-wide in which it portrayed colonialism in its true ugly face, by making colonialism and Capitalism synonymous and expounding that the way for liberation from colonialism was only through Socialist revolution. This campaign succeeded greatly to the extent that many people started to incline towards Socialism. The states, which gained independence and freed themselves from colonialism, by its old face, raised the slogan of Socialism.

However, America realised that the old face of colonialism would be a danger to the Western international powers, and to Capitalism as an ideology. Therefore, it cunningly worked to contain the aspirations of the nations and the peoples towards Socialism and it started itself to help these nations and peoples rid themselves of the overt form of European colonialism, and started to restrict those independent states with a new vicious form of colonialism based on an indirect economic, political and cultural hegemony which was represented in military accords, alliances, mutual security agreements, economic and financial aid and cultural programs. Thus, under the flags of independence and liberation a new colonialism replaced the old colonialism. However, with the collapse of the Soviet Union and Socialism, the international arena became open for Capitalism and there was no longer any resistance to the sole domination of Capitalism internationally.

The UN, which since the 1940s had served only as a forum of speech, with no real power due to the Soviet right of veto, now changed to become a vast international organization with international authority. And it became an important tool to reinforce the hegemony of America on one side and consolidate the Capitalist traditions on the other.

As for the American campaign to make Capitalism an ideology for all nations and people of the globe, it meets no resistance except in the Islamic world. This is because the rest of the nations and people of the world either already embrace Capitalism as is the case with the US, Western Europe and their followers such as Canada,Australia and New Zealand or others like Russia and the states of what once were known as the Eastern bloc who have renounced Socialism and started to mould their lives on the basis of Capitalism. Although states like China, North Korea,Vietnam and Cuba are still raising the slogan of Socialism, in reality they no longer believe in it and gradually turn to Capitalism without any official proclamation. Other nations and peoples of Latin America, the Far East, South East Asia and some countries and tribes in Africa who continually did not have any ideology, do not perceive Capitalism as a doctrinal rival.The Islamic Ummah is the only nation from amongst the non-Capitalist nations which has an ideology, which she embraces, despite the fact that currently she neither lives according to it nor conveys it to the world. Therefore the American campaign to make Capitalism solely dominate the world is not met by real resistance except in the Islamic world.

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Well, while your khalifahkhalifah has been "sleeping", the world has left it behind. It could also be said that nazism and facism are also "sleeping". Let us pray to God that they don't wake-up either. With the freedom and prosperity that the world has enjoyed the past 100 years, it is highly unlikely that any of these oppressive types of governments will ever make a come back.

BTW, this sounds more like an Islamic campaign to suppress capitalism than the other way around.