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What I find sad is the callous indifference to these peoples plight by the state institutions that are suppose to protect vulnerable groups in the society. Weird thing is that if these were Palestinians or Burmese Muslims everyone would be protesting, and mullahs would probably burn down half of the country...if they were being killed like this by Israel or military in Burma.
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That was the thing that I felt that when some false pictures of Burma genocide were coming out on the social media every one was running amok on the streets. We are concerned about Iraq, Syria, Libya, Chechnya and Dagestan. At the moment more killings are taking place in Pakistan. We should be ashamed of ourselves that at the moment no sectarian attacks are taking place in Afghanistan, we get the credit here. One attack took place in Mazar e Sharif in December 2011 and the Afghans pointed fingers towards Pakistan (LEJ of course).
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Ali Syed are all Hazaras Shia? And are all Shias in Pakistan Hazaras? Asking out of ignorance. Thanks.
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Ali Syed are all Hazaras Shia? And are all Shias in Pakistan Hazaras? Asking out of ignorance. Thanks.
All Hazaras are Shias, but all Shias are not Hazaras. The Hazaras have Mongoloid features as evident from the picture in post #108, hence easy to pin point and target. Hazara is an ethnicity and Shiaism is a sect.
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Thanks!
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NO coverage by the media, the sit in is there for almost 48 hours. Seems as if everything is hunky dory in the country. Thanks to the social media, now people don’t need the help of media for highlighting their issues. If media doesn’t change its working it will become irrelevant.
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It is so sad and downright stupid that these kind of incidents should happen in this century. People who believe in conspiracy theories should take a moment to ponder and think if there is a solution to these problems. Even if it is a conspiracy what is the best possible way to end these killings. That is something nobody is talking about.
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whats going on here with the hazara being targetted specifically and regularly? whats really known about the situation? afaik in the past baloch seperatists were suspected, now it is LEJ. whats really known?
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whats going on here with the hazara being targetted specifically and regularly? whats really known about the situation? afaik in the past baloch seperatists were suspected, now it is LEJ. whats really known?
In case of sectarian violence LEJ was always involved and they always accepted the responsibility for the same. The Baloch militants have different goals and they target the military and settlers in the province.
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This is CM Balochistan’s profile.
Raisani has assets worth over Rs 390.15 million: ECP | Business Recorder
Balochistan Chief Minister Nawab Muhammad Aslam Khan Raisani has assets and property valuing more than Rs 390.15 million. According to a statement of assets and liabilities issued by Election Commission of Pakistan, the Chief Minister has business worth Rs 165 million in Sarawan Safety and Security Pvt Limited and Raisani Mining Company (Coal).
He has also immovable property worth more than Rs 84.344 million including open plots, houses, apartments, commercial buildings and agricultural land worth Rs 50.16 million in Quetta district, Rs 1.8 million in Gwadar district, Rs 15.62 million in Kachi district defunct Bolan, Rs 10.17 million in Kalat district, Rs 1.973 million in Sibi district and Rs 4.62 million in Mastung district.
About motor vehicles, the statement described that Raisani has Hummer H2, 2009 BF-6789 valuing Rs 180 million gifted by a friend from UAE, Rs 1 million worth of Toyota Land Cruiser 1997 JAA-379 for personal use, Toyota Land Cruiser 2002 model IDF-1092 valuing Rs 1.374 million and Harley Davidson 2010 model worth Rs 3.227 million. About cash in hand and bank, he has Rs 7 million cash in hand and Rs 2.56 million in bank while furniture of Rs 0.62 million and jewellery of Rs 0.5 million belonging to spouse and is in her use.
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Imran Khan is in the sit in (for Hazaras) outside the Governor House now and would be going to Quetta tomorrow.
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Well let's not try to obfuscate the issues. Drones started long after suicide bombings and ethnic cleansing of Shias did. And the terrorists who are bombing marketplaces, mosques/imam bargahs, schools and so on are not 'victims' of drones or of anything else. They want to extend their fiefdom to all over the country, impose their version of sharia on the rest of the country, and kill anyone they deem an obstacle or is judged heretic in their eyes. The Pak govt's and army's appeasement of terrorist groups has already brought the country to its knees. Both need to wake up and take charge of the country. Of course when they do, drones will stop too.
No one is obfuscating issues, shia sunni fights have been going on for long, very long in fact these so called TTP are not involved in 'shia' killings as much are Lashkar Jhangvi, SSP and the likes and these organizations are spread all over Pakistan so "drones" are not going to address that issue at all no matter how much we'd like that to.
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No coverage by the 'independent media' as well. Every one is covering the pathetic long march, but no value for this human tragedy.
He is getting his paycheck so why should he be worried? When likes of Raja mental rental can become PM after failure as a minister then Raisani is a CM already.
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He is getting his paycheck so why should he be worried? When likes of Raja mental rental can become PM after failure as a minister then Raisani is a CM already.
Tragic, when the attacks took place Raisani was in Islamabad now it seems he is partying in Dubai.
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The red part is very funny indeed. 
Where did you get this absurd idea from? Prove it. 
Again, I only pointed out the pattern of these criminal acts. It clearly shows the terrorists only have one goal…create the fear among people and destroying lives and properties and they are NOT religious by any means.
I just changed the misra to fit on the situation at hand. 
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A few points from this event:
1) The social media has become a very powerful tool in shaping public opinion. The media tried to sweep the issue under the carpet but social media brought it in the fore and now its becoming impossible for them to ignore it. We saw the power of social media in Shazaib case too.
2) Sit-ins in support of Hazaras/Shias in big cities of the country (Sunnis and minorities included) would provide some comfort to the aggrieved as well as a reminder to the perpetrators that they are the biggest losers in the big scheme of things.
3) Maybe as a result we could start our journey towards peace. Enough of this barbaric and inhumane blood shed.
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its heartening to see protests/sit-in were held in different cities in Pakistan to show their solidarity with Quetta Hazaras and still going on... when will the govt wake up? i was reading somewhere that only one Parliamentary from ANP party came out and joined the sit in. the rest wont speak against them for fear of being killed or they are in sympathy with these savages. the only statement came out of Isamabad is that PM says that FC should be given full powers, how would FC alone bring back peace to Quetta? awaam is not that naive that they will trust their hollow promises.
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President has finally woken up after almost three days. there is a meeting going on in Bilawal house. According to reports, there is a good chance that army will be called in.
However, matter of concern is when and IF army launches an operation against these animals, and they will just go and hide in afghanistan, this is what happened earlier as well.
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No one is obfuscating issues, shia sunni fights have been going on for long, very long in fact these so called TTP are not involved in 'shia' killings as much are Lashkar Jhangvi, SSP and the likes and these organizations are spread all over Pakistan so "drones" are not going to address that issue at all no matter how much we'd like that to.
Yes, drones are obviously not an antidote to the incompetence of the government or that of Pakistani military's more devastating long-enduring policy of appeasement and accomodation of terrorists. To address the issue of terrorism once and for all we need:
1) People who are willing to face the reality without clinging to conspiracy theories and boogeymen.
2) An army that renounces its policies of using terrorists as proxies elsewhere, severe *all *support for terrorist groups, and goes after their sanctuaries without any ifs and buts.
3) A government that has zero tolerance for people like Rana Sanaullah and which gets serious in the business of governing.
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The present regime is the most insensitive government that I can think of, tragedies have taken place in Karachi, KP/FATA and Balochistan. Nothing could move them. For more than 40 hours Hazaras are conducting a sit in with the coffins of their loved ones (in sub-zero temperature), and the federal government sent one federal minister to them yesterday. No CM, Governor, PM or President, and the sit in continues.