Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013
I was reading somewhere that terrorists pay families of suicide bombers somewhere between 3000 and 5000 dollars. If this is true, I think govt should go after families of these murderers and arrest and prosecute them for terrorism and for accepting money from terrorists. If convicted, they should all be executed.
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I was reading somewhere that terrorists pay families of suicide bombers somewhere between 3000 and 5000 dollars. If this is true, I think govt should go after families of these murderers and arrest and prosecute them for terrorism and for accepting money from terrorists. If convicted, they should all be executed.
This is the problem, I dont recall any terrorist to be convicted let alone punished through our judicial system.
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Pakistani Shi’ites call for army intervention after Quetta bombs | Reuters
(Reuters) - Pakistani Shi’ite leaders called on the military on Friday to seize control of the provincial capital of Quetta to protect the Muslim minority after one of the worst sectarian attacks in the country’s history.
Shi’ite leaders also told Reuters they would not allow the 82 victims of two bomb attacks in Quetta on Thursday to be buried until their demands were met.
(Reporting by Mehreen Zahra-Malik; Writing by Katharine Houreld; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)
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Another blast in Quetta, Saryab Road. I wonder how many blasts are needed to wake the government up from its slumber and complacency. Thankfully no casualty this time.
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The reason is they are better documented in 2012. 
While for 2008-2010, only the major ones were listed.
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The western forces and covert elements are managing to destabilise the country ... It is becoming obvious what is afoot ... Someone has their eye on Pakistan's nukes ... When are we gonna get them out?
Every single attack is happening for a reason ... What are those reasons? We are never told in the media .... Why? So the only reason that makes sense to me ... Is that above ... There is no reason ... There are just phantoms to blame ... And lie about them taking responsibility for the blasts.
For decades Pakistan has been brainwashing its people into waging Jihad against non-Sunnis and non-muslims such as in Afghanistan and Kashmir.
Now that they have no where else to go, they have started a jihad against Pakistani citizens themselves who are non-sunnis.
This is nothing more than Pakistan's disastarous jihad policies backfiring on itself. As long as people like you continue to invent nonsensical conspiracy theories blaming others for what is clearly a Pakistani created problem, we will never eliminate this.
But this is Pakistan. Nothing is going to change. These kinds of bombings has become the new norm in Pakistan like Bad Traffic or Bad Weather.
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For decades Pakistan has been brainwashing its people into waging Jihad against non-Sunnis and non-muslims such as in Afghanistan and Kashmir.
Now that they have no where else to go, they have started a jihad against Pakistani citizens themselves who are non-sunnis.
This is nothing more than Pakistan's disastarous jihad policies backfiring on itself. As long as people like you continue to invent nonsensical conspiracy theories blaming others for what is clearly a Pakistani created problem, we will never eliminate this.
But this is Pakistan. Nothing is going to change. These kinds of bombings has become the new norm in Pakistan like Bad Traffic or Bad Weather.
To say that Pakistan as a state has been brainwashing its people into waging jihad against non-sunnis is a ridiclous and incorrect statement.
Pakistan's disastarous jihad policies have backfired, I agree, but what you conveniently forgot to mention is that your beloved USA was a big partner in it, be it the partnership against the Russians or its war of terror since 2001. Now continue your rant.
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To say that Pakistan as a state has been brainwashing its people into waging jihad against non-sunnis is a ridiclous and incorrect statement.
Pakistan's disastarous jihad policies have backfired, I agree, but what you conveniently forgot to mention is that your beloved USA was a big partner in it, be it the partnership against the Russians or its war of terror since 2001. Now continue your rant.
I went to Pakistan last year and I had to apply for a Pakistani Visa. While signing a document for that VISA I had to sign that Ahmedis are Not Muslim.
Pakistan is perhaps the only country which asks you to do this. If this is not Pakistan's Jihad policies seeping into every facet of Pakistani society, I don't know what is.
And this is just one example.
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Silence of the army in this carnage is deafening.
Shi’ite leader challenges Pakistan army chief over attacks
By Gul Yousufzai
QUETTA, Pakistan (Reuters) - In a rare challenge, a Shi’ite leader publicly criticized powerful Pakistani army chief General Ashfaq Kayani over security in the country on Friday after bombings aimed at the minority sect killed 114 people.
“I ask the army chief: What have you done with these extra three years you got (in office). What did you give us except more death,” Maulana Amin Shaheedi, who heads a national council of Shi’ite organizations, told a news conference.
The criticism of Kayani, arguably the most powerful man in Pakistan, highlighted Shi’ite frustrations with the state’s failure to contain hard-line Sunni militant groups who have vowed to wipe out the sect.
Most of Thursday’s deaths were caused by twin attacks aimed Shi’ites in the southwestern city of Quetta, near the Afghan border, where members of the minority have long accused the state of turning a blind eye to Sunni militant death squads.
Shi’ite leaders were so outraged at the latest bloodshed that they called for the military to take control of Quetta to shield them and said they would not allow the 82 victims of twin bomb attacks to be buried until their demands were met.
The burials had been scheduled to take place after Friday prayers but the bodies would remain in place until Shi’ites had received promises of protection.
Shaheedi said scores of bodies were still lying on a road. “They will not be buried until the army comes into Quetta,” he said.
Violence against Pakistani Shi’ite Muslims is rising and some communities are living in a state of siege, a human rights group said on Friday.
“Last year was the bloodiest year for Shias in living memory,” said Ali Dayan Hasan of Human Rights Watch. “More than 400 were killed and if yesterday’s attack is any indication, it’s just going to get worse.”
A suicide bomber first targeted a snooker club in Quetta. A car bomb blew up nearby 10 minutes later after police and rescuers had arrived.
In all, 82 people were killed and 121 wounded. Nine police and 20 rescue workers were among the dead.
“It was like doomsday. Bodies were lying everywhere,” said police officer Mir Zubair Mehmood.
The banned Sunni group Lashkar-e-Jangvi (LeJ) claimed responsibility for the attack in a predominantly Shi’ite neighborhood where the residents are ethnic Hazaras, Shi’ites who first migrated from Afghanistan in the nineteenth century.
While U.S. intelligence agencies have focused on al Qaeda and the Taliban, Pakistani intelligence officials say LeJ is emerging as a graver threat to Pakistan, a nuclear-armed, strategic U.S. ally.
It has stepped up attacks against Shi’ites across the country but has zeroed in on members of the sect who live in resource-rich Baluchistan province, of which Quetta is capital.
The paramilitary Frontier Corps is largely responsible for security in Baluchistan province but Shi’ites say it is unable or unwilling to protect them from the LeJ.
“STATE OF SIEGE”
The LeJ wants to impose a Sunni theocracy by stoking Sunni-Shi’ite violence. It bombs religious processions and shoots civilians in the type of attacks that pushed countries like Iraq close to civil war.
The latest attacks sparked an outpouring of grief, rage and fear among Shi’ites, many of whom have concluded that the state has left them at the mercy of the LeJ and other extremist groups who believe they are non-Muslims.
“The LeJ operates under one front or the other, and its activists go around openly shouting, ‘infidel, infidel, Shi’ite infidel’ and ‘death to Shi’ites’ in the streets of Quetta and outside our mosques,” said Syed Dawwod Agha, a top official with the Baluchistan Shi’ite Conference.
“We have become a community of grave diggers. We are so used to death now that we always have shrouds ready.”
The roughly 500,000-strong Hazara people in Quetta, who speak a Persian dialect, have distinct features and are an easy target, said Dayan of Human Rights Watch.
“They live in a state of siege. Stepping out of the ghetto means risking death,” said Dayan. “Everyone has failed them - the security services, the government, the judiciary.”
Earlier on Thursday, a separate bomb killed 11 people in Quetta’s main market.
The United Baloch Army claimed responsibility for that blast. The group is one of several fighting for independence for Baluchistan, an arid, impoverished region with substantial gas, copper and gold reserves.
Baluchistan constitutes just less than half of Pakistan’s territory and is home to about 8 million of the country’s population of 180 million.
In a separate attack on Thursday, in Mingora, the largest city in the Swat valley in the northwest, at least 21 people were killed when an explosion targeted a public gathering of residents who had come to listen to a religious leader.
No one claimed responsibility for that bombing. Swat has been under army rule since a military offensive expelled Pakistani Taliban militants in 2009.
The LeJ has had historically close ties to elements in the security forces, who see the group as an ally in any potential war with neighboring India. Security forces deny any such links.
In a measure of the outrage, several Pakistani social media users posted Facebook comments urging the U.S. to expand its covert programme of drone warfare beyond Taliban strongholds on the Afghan border to target LeJ leaders in Baluchistan.
Among the dead in Quetta was Khudi Ali, a young activist who often wore a t-shirt with fake bloodstains during protests against the rising violence against Shi’ites.
Ali’s Twitter profile said: “I am born to fight for human rights and peace.”
(Reporting by Katharine Houreld; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)
Re: Terrorist attacks in Pakistan - 2013
Two more blasts heard in Hazar Ganji Quetta (Hazaras live there).
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The western forces and covert elements are managing to destabilise the country ... It is becoming obvious what is afoot ... Someone has their eye on Pakistan's nukes ... When are we gonna get them out?
Every single attack is happening for a reason ... What are those reasons? We are never told in the media .... Why? So the only reason that makes sense to me ... Is that above ... There is no reason ... There are just phantoms to blame ... And lie about them taking responsibility for the blasts.
Please it is high time to come out of denial and trite conspiracy theories. Pakistan, as it is, is a nightmare for the rest of the World. The last thing anyone in the West wants is to "destablise" this country of 160 million people, with all the harrowing consequences that will likely follow suit.
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The reason is they are better documented in 2012. :D
While for 2008-2010, only the major ones were listed.
lame, try again.
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Please it is high time to come out of denial and trite conspiracy theories. Pakistan, as it is, is a nightmare for the rest of the World. The last thing anyone in the West wants is to "destablise" this country of 160 million people, with all the harrowing consequences that will likely follow suit.
at the same time it is high time to condemn drone attacks and stop them.
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at the same time it is high time to condemn drone attacks and stop them.
What does drone attacks have to do with the genocide of Hazaras and Shias and the cleansing of other minorities that is going on with escalating frequency in Pakistan? Going off tangent and exploiting tragedies like the Quetta attack to further one's completely unrelated agenda smack of a little desperation.
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What does drone attacks have to do with the genocide of Hazaras and Shias and the cleansing of other minorities that is going on with escalating frequency in Pakistan? Going off tangent and exploiting tragedies like the Quetta attack to further one's completely unrelated agenda smack of a little desperation.
Where did minority issue come from? Drone attacks provide fuel to fire, families of innocent killed in drone attacks will support people who claim to fight against drone attackers, it is not a rocket science but ground reality which is ignored/forgotten by drawing room brigadiers, fighters, intellectuals.
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Where did minority issue come from? Drone attacks provide fuel to fire, families of innocent killed in drone attacks will support people who claim to fight against drone attackers, it is not a rocket science but ground reality which is ignored/forgotten by drawing room brigadiers, fighters, intellectuals.
Right, Taliban are blowing up mosques with suicide bombers b/c the US is attacking terrorists in border regions that Pakistan has all but the secede to terrorists.
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Where did minority issue come from? Drone attacks provide fuel to fire, families of innocent killed in drone attacks will support people who claim to fight against drone attackers, it is not a rocket science but ground reality which is ignored/forgotten by drawing room brigadiers, fighters, intellectuals.
Over 100 people died yesterday in Quetta alone so the systematic genocide of minorities cannot be brushed under the carpet. As for drones, the number of "innocents" killed pale in comparison to the thousands killed by terrorists. Besides I dare say, given the choice, no "innocent" would willingly want to live in the 8th century god-forsaken fiefdom anyways that the tribal areas have become thanks to the proliferation of Uzbaaki, Araabi, Kazaakhi, Chechani, and other satanic groups. If only the government of Pakistan, along with the dysfunctional army, started exercising its writ over the area and actually police the area, both the people can be rescued from an 8th century life of privation and drones can end.
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What are the economic issues behind the attacks? Communal violence is never just about religion or language or ethnicity. What are the employment and land issues? What trade or business or resource control is spurring this?
The Shia/Sunni divide is just a cover.
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What are the economic issues behind the attacks? Communal violence is never just about religion or language or ethnicity. What are the employment and land issues? What trade or business or resource control is spurring this?
The Shia/Sunni divide is just a cover.
This is a Shia Sunni warfare which is getting hold in almost all muslim countries (proxy wars between Saudia and Iran). In the context of Balochistan its a one way genocide. No other economic reason.
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lame, try again.
Not Lame.
There were hardly any Pakistani wikipedia members during 2008-2010. I was among the few and tried at best to document all the terrorist attacks but due to the frequency of those attacks, I just documented all the major ones.
With more Pakistanis joining wikipedia, a running total of all violence that takes place in Pakistan is being documented.
Trust me. I write on Wikipedia. :D