Terrorist attacks - Discussion

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Read this tweet made by a guy called irfan 16 hours ago, later he was also killed in a bomb blast.

“@khudiali: #Hazara families of #Machh,Khuzdir finally succumbed to the genocidal pressure&moving out. Sad day for diversity in #Balochistan.”

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^^^ Hazaras should armed themselves or moved to safer part of the country. What is despicable is that LEJ that primary targets this community has defacto protection in South Punjab. I failed to understand why state hasn't take action against this outlaw group.

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I don't get the point of the 2 nd para in post 24.

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The biggest problem in balochistan is that there is no government. The control of the province is virtually with the FC. I don't understand the policy of the military officials in the province. If they are not supporting LEJ at least they have turned a blind eye to them, maybe to counter the baloch insurgency. As a result the activities of sectarian outfits is increasing even in baloch majority areas. After 10 years of bloodletting, the situation is now more complex than ever. There is no love lost between the baloch and the army. The militants kill punjabis, Pashtuns and other settlers. Add to this sectarian killings of Shias is also reaching alarming levels. We are on the verge of a civil war in balochistan, due to the ethnic and sectarian hatreds.

Pakistan army does not have many supporters left in the province. Baloch are already at odds with them, Pashtuns have generally become staunch nationalists or talebanized, the settlers are not happy as the state has failed to protect them. As far as Shias are concerned the less said the better. And for winning any war the support of the locals is very important.

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Pathetic..
Our resident mullahs in these forums are more concerned about the selection of targets by these animals than the killings…

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This could be gas cylinder as these people do carry them for their cooking. One should realize that there have been very attacks on deboandi followers (TJ is mainly deobandi) - so far most of the targets were either shias or barelvies.

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Sorry to say its not the West who is the enemy of Pakistan but Pakistanies themselves!

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Diwana is implying that these terrorists have an agenda against "Muslims" only. Another words, they are either American, Israeli or Indian.

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Oh.

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In this case, they are happening because the sunni extremist groups dont like Shia's. Why is that so hard to believe?

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Im guessing its probably an amalgamation of all three, a bunch off Indian Jews who just happen to have American citizenship. The personification of all things evil in Pakistanis. God help us.

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Indeed. Ram Cohen-Smith is never up to any good.

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Sad, but the hazaras used to be the most patriotic people of the country. The army has lost them like others in the province.

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This poor guy narrowly escaped one bomb attack, but was not lucky in the other.

irfan ‏@khudiali](https://twitter.com/khudiali)
#Quetta](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Quetta&src=hash), was on the way to home nearly escaped from bomb blast 11 ppl dead****

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They will never find the culprits, and things will remain more or less the same.

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There is another thread on drones, but there's no comparison in the casualties of drones to those due to terrorist attacks (terrorists kill at least 14-15 times more). The drones cannot break the country, but terrorism/civil war can.

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Feeling really depressed now, if this is the beginning of 2013 I fear to think how it would be like at the end. May Allah keep every one safe and give hadayat to the terrorists. I have no hope left from the Army or the government.

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Haider Changezi ‏@Aushpaz](https://twitter.com/Aushpaz)
@khudiali](https://twitter.com/khudiali) survived Mezan chowk blast earlier in day,then he survived 1st blast at Alamdar Rd..went to help victims&died in 2nd blast!#Quetta](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Quetta&src=hash)****

Mourning Online for Pakistani Rights Activist Killed in Quetta Bombing - NYTimes.com

**Bombs in two Pakistani cities killed at least 115 people on Thursday, with the worst carnage inflicted by two explosions a few minutes apart in the southwestern city of Quetta, taking the lives of at least 81 people. As my colleague Declan Walsh reports from Islamabad, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a Sunni militant group with strong ties to the Pakistani Taliban, claimed responsibility for the attack in a Quetta neighborhood dominated by ethnic Hazara Shiites.
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The group maximized the deadliness of the bloody attack by sending a suicide bomber to detonate his explosives inside a snooker hall, and then a second attacker blew up his vehicle outside the club a short time later, killing rescue workers and journalists.

**Among those killed by the second blast was a rights activist, Irfan Ali, 33, who was helping the injured. Just before his death, he noted on his @khudiali](https://twitter.com/khudiali) Twitter feed that he had narrowly escaped the first blast. Then he posted another message, registering his dismay that the group behind the attack had also succeeded in driving some Hazara families out of their homes. The families who moved out, he wrote in his final words on Twitter, had “finally succumbed to the genocidal pressure,” from the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. It was, he noted, a “sad day for diversity in Baluchistan,” the northwestern province that has Quetta as its capital.
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irfan](https://twitter.com/khudiali) @khudiali](https://twitter.com/khudiali)
#Hazara](https://twitter.com/search/%23Hazara) families of #Machh](https://twitter.com/search/%23Machh),Khuzdir finally succumbed to the genocidal pressure&moving out. Sad day for diversity in#Balochistan](https://twitter.com/search/%23Balochistan).


As my colleague in Islamabad explained in a telephone interview with the PBS Newshour, the Persian-speaking, Shiite Muslim Hazara community “immigrated from Afghanistan about a century ago” and “has suffered a series of attacks at the hands of Sunni death squads over the last couple of years.” More than 100 Hazaras were killed last year, and some of the killers are from militant groups believed to have links to the country’s security services.

As news of Mr. Ali’s death spread, he was mourned by fellow activists, bloggers and journalists online. Dozens of tributes to him were posted on Twitter; his Facebook page filled with words of sympathy and respect for his battles for peace and against sectarianism.[https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3092019628/f676180ec20f2e99d1eeef98d977b83a_normal.jpeg

@Ali_Abbas_Zaidi](https://twitter.com/Ali_Abbas_Zaidi)

just talked to mother of @khudiali](https://twitter.com/khudiali) - dear friend, peace activist and a smiling face. He is no more. Martyred in today’s blast in Quetta****

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Massacre in Quetta provides damning indictment of authorities: HRW | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

NEW YORK: The Pakistani government’s persistent failure to protect the minority Shia Muslim community in Pakistan from sectarian attacks by Sunni militant groups, is reprehensible and amounts to complicity in the barbaric slaughter of Pakistani citizens, Human Rights Watch said on Thursday. The government should immediately hold accountable those responsible for ordering and participating in deadly attacks targeting the Shia across Pakistan and particularly the Hazara Shia in Quetta, the capital of Balochistan province.

On January 10, at least 4 bomb attacks took place in Quetta killing over 93 and injuring well over 150 people. Those killed included at least 8 police personnel and one journalist.

**“2012 was the bloodiest year for Pakistan’s Shia community in living memory and if this latest attack is any indication, 2013 has started on an even more dismal note,” said Ali Dayan Hasan, Pakistan director at Human Rights Watch. “As Shia community members continue to be slaughtered in cold blood, the callousness and indifference of authorities offers a damning indictment of the state, its military and security agencies.
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While sectarian violence is a longstanding problem in Pakistan, attacks against ordinary Shia have increased dramatically in recent years, Human Rights Watch said. In 2012, well over 400 members of the Shia population were killed in targeted attacks. Over 120 of these were killed in Balochistan province, the vast majority from the Hazara Shia community.

Similar attacks targeting the Shia population have taken place repeatedly over the last year in Balochistan, the port city of Karachi, predominantly Shia populated areas of Gilgit Baltistan in the northern areas, and in Pakistan’s tribal areas, Human Rights Watch said.

**Sunni militant groups such as the ostensibly banned Lashkar-e Jhangvi have operated with widespread impunity across Pakistan while law enforcement officials have effectively turned a blind eye on attacks against Shia communities. Some Sunni extremist groups are known to be allies of the Pakistani military, its intelligence agencies, and affiliated paramilitaries, such as the Frontier Corps, Human Rights Watch said.
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**While authorities claim to have arrested dozens of suspects in attacks against Shia since 2008, only a handful have been charged, and no one has been held accountable for these attacks.
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**“Pakistan’s tolerance for religious extremists is not just destroying lives and alienating entire communities, it is destroying Pakistani society across the board,” said Hasan. “Sectarian violence won’t end until those responsible are brought to trial and justice.”
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Human Rights Watch urged Pakistan’s federal government and relevant provincial governments to make all possible efforts to promptly apprehend and prosecute those responsible for recent attacks and other crimes targeting the Shia population. The government should direct civilian agencies and the military responsible for security to actively protect those facing attack from extremist groups, and to address the growing perception, particularly in Balochistan and Pakistan’s tribal areas, that state authorities look the other way when Shia are attacked. It should increase the number of security personnel in Shia majority areas and enclaves at high risk of attack, particularly the Hazara community in Quetta. The government should also actively investigate allegations of collusion between Sunni militant groups and military intelligence and paramilitary forces and hold accountable personnel found to be involved in criminal acts.

“The Pakistani authorities’ are just indifferent bystanders to slaughter at best or callously supportive of those perpetrating these massacres at worst,” Hasan said. “By their inaction in the face of massacre after massacre and killing after killing, Pakistan’s political leaders, law enforcement agencies, judiciary and military are presiding over a collective failure to address the growing perception that they are either in sympathy with Sunni extremists or utterly incompetent and unable to provide basic security. Either way, this is a crisis that neither Pakistanis nor the world can afford to ignore any more.”